Originally Posted by Javienn

Cygone is a Tac Captain. So yes, for us Sci Captains, moving those points elsewhere is a good idea.

Originally Posted by Cygone

I would be tempted to drop the Tricobalt, and try running 4 Quantuns and 2 Purple Doffs, somewhere on these forums are the test figures I ran with multiple launchers vs multiple doffs, I think you will find that would be the highest DPS you can get while not sacreficing to many Doffs slots.

Originally Posted by hypochondriacs

I'm a bit confused why you have 6 points in attack pattern? A science captain can't use attack patterns. Would it be better to but those 6 points into shi[ energy weapons?

Originally Posted by Cygone

I do, I did the tests myself,

Dont use 3 PWD, its not worth it, I did the tests earlier in the week, (copyied out of my other thread)

A Few figues, I will update this post as I get more,

2 Photon Launchers - 1 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 111 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***111 / 300***
3 Photon Launchers - 1 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 147 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***147 / 300***
2 Photon Launchers - 2 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 126 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***126 / 300***
3 Photon Launchers - 2 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 148 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***148 / 300***

2 Quantum Launchers - 1 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 104 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***104 / 300***
3 Qunatum Launchers - 1 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 131 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***131 / 300***
2 Quantum Launchers - 2 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 111 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***111 / 300***
3 Quantum Launchers - 2 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 137 Torpedos in 300 seconds ***137 / 300***

3 Rapid Reload Transphasic Torpedos - 1 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 140 Torpedos in 300 Seconds ***140/300***
3 Rapid Reload Transphasic Torpedos - 2 Blue, 1 Purple Doff - 147 Torpedos in 300 Seconds ***147/300***

I can't use 3 Doffs, because I am using 2xDevelopment Lab Scientists and 1xTractor Specialist, this means I can only use 2 Projectile Weapon Doffs, so Photons are the better options for DPS. Frankly, I dont think I would want to use another Doff slot just to ekk out that smidgen of DPS from 3Q/3D

Tests were done in a 1v1 PvP situation, torps were set to autofire, no THY or TS used, parser counted the shots and the time elapsed.

Originally Posted by shuihuo

Cygone, awesome build man. I just finished a character based on this thread. I just have one observation based on your numbers



Even though based on your test the quantum fires fewer shots, each quantum hit is higher damage. So the DPS between photon and quantum should be awash. Plus, with the extra torps generated from HYT, this should put quantum over photon in terms of damage right?

I am gonna try it with my next few salvages.

Originally Posted by Cygone

That depends on the suffixes of the weapon types, but using by build (in the OP, all those pages back), the 3Photon, 2PWD was the higest DPS for me (3Q / 3D) was higheer bu about 2% but I didnt want to give up a 3rd Doff slot for that little DPS gain.

Originally Posted by igorvalentine

Hi Cygone! How well would this build work with an Atrox Carrier? The boffs are almost the same except for losing the ensign sci(which is an awesome hull heal in the intrepid build) in exchange for a lt commander engineering slot. Would you pick up a hull heal that isn't as good as hazard emitters in this type of build?

Originally Posted by USS_Ultimatum

The problem with this build and the Atrox is the Atrox's turnrate.

It would be stretching it even on STFs where many enemies don't move very much, and most likely horrendous in PvP attempting to bring your Torps on target.

Originally Posted by bustersworduk

Hi Cygone, this is quite similar to my build except that I am using the RSV - the ensign science BOFF on the intrepid definitely seems more useful than the ensign tac BOFF as the TT1 team clashes with ST1.

I was toying with the idea of having PSW1 instead of the second copy of TYB3, and maybe even throwing in the PSW torpedo console for extra disable in PVP.

Do you find the ablative armor helps much in PVP or is just a gimmick?