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# 41
04-16-2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
From watching the Oddies tank 5+ players in Ker'rat, I do not think they have been nerfed or weakened at all. Sounds more like a Borg/STF issue or an error in the players build.
Obviously being an experienced player and trying out tons of different configs to figure out/fix the problem, its not an error in my build. Maybe all "Elite" NPC's (this weakness carries through to all elite Episode missions as well, not just STF) have been made insanely overpowered by some idiotic accident, but my Tactical Odyssey is just weak sauce now (as are my other Ody's in any config) and for the price I paid for this set, this is just unacceptable.
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# 42
04-16-2012, 06:04 PM
Is it only applying to Odyssey's or is the Bortasqu' getting sheared faster than overfluffed sheep as well?
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# 43
04-16-2012, 10:40 PM
Haven't noticed any difference is survivability on my Odyssey over the last few days, perhaps it's akin to all those 'Accuracy has been nerfed' posts which used to crop up on City of Heroes?
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# 44
04-17-2012, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by reyan01
I did wonder. The Aegis set is probably still the best kit I have, although I do have the Borg Assimilated Regenerative Shield Array, and may equip that in place of the Aegis shield.

I stink at STF's and my participation usually results in a failed mission, but would dearly love the Omega set.
The Assimilated Set > Aegis besides the Engine in combat. Generally in STF's having that fast regenerative shield is better than a lot of shield HP which goes away too fast to matter. The Omega set is kind of... eh... Anymore as well.


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Originally Posted by reyan01
It is a pity - the Aegis set LOOKS fantastic, and it's stats looks impressive, but equiped on my Oddy, in an STF I just get my proverbial kicked.
I know... I hate the fact that we cannot get the visuals unlocked because I LOVE the look of the Aegis and am not so hot on others. Yet for my new klink I'd love the Assimilated look but the set is not as good as HG.
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# 45
04-17-2012, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinkuu_Akagan
The Assimilated Set > Aegis besides the Engine in combat. Generally in STF's having that fast regenerative shield is better than a lot of shield HP which goes away too fast to matter. The Omega set is kind of... eh... Anymore as well.




I know... I hate the fact that we cannot get the visuals unlocked because I LOVE the look of the Aegis and am not so hot on others. Yet for my new klink I'd love the Assimilated look but the set is not as good as HG.
Took your advice - kept the Aegis deflector and engine in place (I haven't got anything better anyway) but replaced the shield with the Borg Regenerative one; subsequently played Cure and Khitomer on normal (don't think anyone would appreciate my using Elite as a testing ground for this) and aside from taking heavy damage (which my workbees took care of) managed not to taken taken out. Will have to try elite later.
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# 46
04-17-2012, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by reyan01
Took your advice - kept the Aegis deflector and engine in place (I haven't got anything better anyway) but replaced the shield with the Borg Regenerative one; subsequently played Cure and Khitomer on normal (don't think anyone would appreciate my using Elite as a testing ground for this) and aside from taking heavy damage (which my workbees took care of) managed not to taken taken out. Will have to try elite later.
If you've found an improvement in the Borg shield then you'll really like the MACO shield. It has a higher capacity, 20% Plasma resist, another 10% all energy resist and is a Resilient (less bleed through). Definitely a nice shield and one of the best available without doubt.
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# 47
04-17-2012, 03:05 AM
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If you've found an improvement in the Borg shield then you'll really like the MACO shield. It has a higher capacity, 20% Plasma resist, another 10% all energy resist and is a Resilient (less bleed through). Definitely a nice shield and one of the best available without doubt.
Hey - thanks for the advice

Problem is I haven't paricipated in a STF that has either A: dropped the item required to obtain the MACO kit or B: the STF I was participating in failed leaving no drop anyway.

And I have to admit, I am not entirely clear on how you obtain them anyway - the Wiki is a little vauge about it.
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# 48
04-17-2012, 03:49 AM
You can get the STF sets from the vendor on DS9. The Mk X set items are 20 EDC each and the Mk XI 40 each, if you intend to get the Mk XII gear then IMO I wouldn't bother with Mk XI and instead would stick with Mk X as the difference between the two isn't so big that it's worth the extra EDC for a stopgap item.

If you're having issues completing normal STFs (I'm guessing Cure and KA space) then it may be worth just keeping an eye on the failure condition for them. Usually no one in a normal STF will bother with the Kang (the Cure) or stopping probes (KA) so it's worth keeping an eye on them and doing it yourself if you have to. If it's that bad a PuG no ones working on these then the optional probably won't happen anyway so making sure the whole thing doesn't fail is more important, especially if you're still working on the set items and need all the EDC and drop chances as you can get.

EDIT: To clarify, the individual items are 20 and 40 EDC each and there are three items per set. To get the set bonuses all items need to be of the same Mk and have at least two items from one of the sets (Omega or MACO) although you'll get the passives from the individual items regardless of how many items are equipped.
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# 49
04-17-2012, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Militis View Post
You can get the STF sets from the vendor on DS9. The Mk X set items are 20 EDC each and the Mk XI 40 each, if you intend to get the Mk XII gear then IMO I wouldn't bother with Mk XI and instead would stick with Mk X as the difference between the two isn't so big that it's worth the extra EDC for a stopgap item.

If you're having issues completing normal STFs (I'm guessing Cure and KA space) then it may be worth just keeping an eye on the failure condition for them. Usually no one in a normal STF will bother with the Kang (the Cure) or stopping probes (KA) so it's worth keeping an eye on them and doing it yourself if you have to. If it's that bad a PuG no ones working on these then the optional probably won't happen anyway so making sure the whole thing doesn't fail is more important, especially if you're still working on the set items and need all the EDC and drop chances as you can get.
Thankyou - thought 'vetran rewards' were required, but will get collecting EDC's!
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# 50
04-17-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Megacharge View Post
Obviously being an experienced player and trying out tons of different configs to figure out/fix the problem, its not an error in my build. Maybe all "Elite" NPC's (this weakness carries through to all elite Episode missions as well, not just STF) have been made insanely overpowered by some idiotic accident, but my Tactical Odyssey is just weak sauce now (as are my other Ody's in any config) and for the price I paid for this set, this is just unacceptable.
The the issue may well be NPC based at Elite levels of play doing to much damage to be able to overcome via healing and resist stacking, much like the Borg one-shot torpedoes that kill you even when buffed.

In PvP I find the Oddies and Borti very tanky unless focus fired upon. In teh STFs I pop like a ripe melon dropped on the floor.
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