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# 41
04-26-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by USS_Ultimatum
STOwiki is incorrect then, I run 3xDHCs (Disruptor, of course ) on my Guramba.
Just to clarify so I can edit it. Are you saying that it can mount the dual heavy cannons instead?

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# 42
04-26-2012, 03:49 PM
all we need.. another frigging escort.. how about a SCIENCE SHIP WORTH A TINKERS DAMN???
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# 43
04-26-2012, 04:04 PM
Recons are great! And canon too. +1 Recon SV would be a nice idea.

Akira +1 would be the only escort that can use EWP1, RSP2 and any other LtC power in high demand and give the Feds a pseudo-carrier, in exchange for a slower turn rate, more hull and more crew. That alone I feel is rather different from what's offered now.
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# 44
04-26-2012, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by theapparatus View Post
Just to clarify so I can edit it. Are you saying that it can mount the dual heavy cannons instead?

thanks
-drmike

The Guramba can mount every weapon in the game, and for the sake of this conversation that specifically includes Single Cannons, Dual Cannons and Dual Heavy Cannons.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Vetteguy904
all we need.. another frigging escort.. how about a SCIENCE SHIP WORTH A TINKERS DAMN???
Number of T5 Science Vessels = 5
Number of T5 Escorts = 4
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# 45
04-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
That too, but a FE+1 with a (which is the only thing I could come up with)
Commander Tactical
LTC Science
LTC Engineer
Ensign Tactical
seems for more out-of-balance to me.
That would be an amazing boff load out. I would love to have it, you get the best toys from all boff types.

However it is unbalanced and overpowered.
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# 46
04-27-2012, 12:29 AM
I think my order of preference would go something like this:


1)
Cmdr Tac
LT Cmdr Tac
Ensign Science
LT Cmdr Engineer



2)
Cmdr Tac
LT Cmdr Tac
Ensign Science
LT Engineer
LT Engineer


3)
Cmdr Tac
LT Tac
Ensign Tac
Ensign Science
LT Cmdr Engineer
Ensign Engineer
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# 47
04-27-2012, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by athenaX
That would be an amazing boff load out. I would love to have it, you get the best toys from all boff types.

However it is unbalanced and overpowered.
Hence, why I said it seems out-of-balance to me.:p
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# 48
04-27-2012, 12:18 PM
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That is an area of concern when coupled with a Universal Slot.
Only the VoQuv has two LTC slot and it is restricted to 11 BOffs for that Setting, So I would say lose the Universal Slot.

I must say that this is givng me ideas for a +1 raptor.
How about:

Fleet Escort Retrofit
Cmdr Tac = 4
LT Tac = 2
Lt Science = 2
LT Cmdr Engineer = 3
Ensign Engineer=1
Total = 12
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# 49
04-27-2012, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
How about:

Fleet Escort Retrofit
Cmdr Tac = 4
LT Tac = 2
Lt Science = 2
LT Cmdr Engineer = 3
Ensign Engineer=1
Total = 12
Ens Eng should be Tac.

There's a point where having more tanky in a ship with not much tanky to start with is not as good as having more ways to kill stuff.

Should always have at least 7 tac slots IMO.
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# 50
04-27-2012, 08:57 PM
The AE got a +1 version that could separate.
The Defiant got a T5 upgrade and a cloaking device.

What really needs to be done to the Fleet Escort? I'm in a dwindling number of people who feel that the Tier 5 ships are all just about equal (although I admit the Flagships are more powerful than any other Tier 5) and with the oncoming Andorian Escort do you really need a refit of a ship that is competitive? If anything you should be for more Member race ships rather than Federation designs.

I'm even going to say that the Klingons got their Tier 5 +1 BoP in the B'Rel Retrofit that has the Enhanced Battle Cloak. Do they need another ship, sure how about another Cruiser light as a Vor'cha and with the BOFF layout of an Excelsior. Heck make it the D9 (or is it D7?) K'Tinga retrofit. The Klingons would love it. As for an alternative to the Raptor, yeah they have the Garumba but they really do need a Klingon built choice.

If anyone needs a new cool ship design it's KDF.
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