Lt. Commander
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# 1 First Person View
01-30-2010, 11:49 PM
I love Star Trek Online, and I especially love how you made the ship combat much like Star Trek Bridge Commander. [The combat in Bridge Commander was awesome btw]

However I'd have to say one of the most disappointing aspects of Star Trek Online is not being able to zoom all the way into first person view.

Now, ship combat I'd mostly like to be able to zoom in for aesthetic reasons. Sure, I would use third person in ship combat but I would use first person alot to bring a sense of ... being there into the game. As of right now, I just don't feel like I'm really IN the game, which really ruins the Star Trek experience for me.

I would especially like to be able to zoom into first person on the ground. Looking at my character the whole time sitting there in front of me is highly annoying. To be honest it's a real eyesore having my character in front of the screen the whole time and not having any way to get him off there. I would LOVE to be able to zoom into first person view. In fact I find myself in ground combat leaning against walls so that the view goes into accidental first person view just so I can enjoy it for a few seconds.

Being able to zoom into first person view on the ground would also help me to feel more like I'm IN the game, rather than looking at it from a birds eye point of view.

So in the end, I would really like first person view. I'm not saying FORCE everyone into first person view. Just please let us have an option to zoom in if we want to? It wouldn't hurt anyone to at least make the option available. In fact I believe it would greatly add to the games realism aspect.

I want to say, in a more positive note... that I absolutely LOVE the ship to ship combat aspect of this game. I was worried that the ship combat was going to be point and click crud like Eve Online, and I was very pleased when I got into the game and found that it was like bridge commander.

I love the game, I just think that it would be really awesome to be able to zoom into first person view at will using the mouse wheel scroll.

Thanks!
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# 2
01-31-2010, 12:23 AM
good idea

+1
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# 3
01-31-2010, 05:32 AM
Thanks. I really do think it would make a huge difference.
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# 4
01-31-2010, 02:19 PM
/Signed!!

I would also love this for much of the same reasons!
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# 5 Yes yes yes yes PLEASE
01-31-2010, 03:07 PM
PLEASE give me the 1st person option! Ground combat is horrible! Clicking a number or "shoot" icon to fire a hand held weapon?? WTF?

Cumbersome, cumbersome, cumbersome! I can see the need for 3rd person for consoles, but don't subject us PC users to the same encumbrances

I would pay extra not to have to use 3rd person mode...
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# 6
01-31-2010, 05:28 PM
Yes 1st person view is a must. TBH thats the only proble I have with STO games wise.
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# 7
02-01-2010, 01:39 AM
Yup this has been requested since CB, but no official word from Devs has ever been given.

Give us the option to zoom to 1st person mode. I wouldn't think it would be that difficult. The game already does it if you move close to a wall and spin the camera just right.

Same goes for Space. The option to put the camera in front of the disc, like a "bumper cam" in car games, would be great. Or optional "camera placements" on top of the disc and in the deflector dish would be nice too.


Actually yesterday I was playing a ground mission, when something weird happened to the camera. I don't know how to replicate it, but a combination of crouch mode, nearby enemies and some boxes behind the captain, and my camera got stuck in a 1st person mode!

It lasted for a while, and I absolutely loved it. Unfortunately when I tried to take a screenshot, I accidentally hit Home instead (darn new keyboard with the buttons in the wrong places!) and the image was returned to the sad 3rd person mode.

But at least I saw that the 1st person mode is completely doable and fine in STO. Just implement it already!
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# 8
02-01-2010, 03:19 AM
I have no understanding of how 1st person view would be "programmed" into the game, but would it really be that difficult? As it stands now, when my back is to the wall and I try to pivot the camera behind my character during ground combat, the camera zooms all the way in and I am often left with a FPS view with only my gun being visible. Maybe there is some work to be done on it due to the "rolling" the ground combat utilizes.
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# 9
02-01-2010, 04:36 AM
Well even with the rolling, the camera could just "float" above the rolling character.

Yeah, the game clearly is capable of handling a 1st person view. It might not be perfect at the moment, but I'll take it.

Just give us the ability to toggle the 1st person view on, and fiddle with the details (floating weapons etc) later.
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# 10
02-01-2010, 04:46 AM
It's completely possible BUUT the "vision" of STO is to keep it from feeling like a dog fight, and that's what first person would do. Anyway, that's my opinion. So it's certainly possible, but your're not going to get it.
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