How about limiting people to doing these operations a MAXIMUM of say three a day (regardless of how many characters they have)
Weekends I average 10 STFs per day, weekdays average 4, so average of 160 STFs per month. It has taken me 2-3 months to get all my ground gear and space weapons. So instead of 2-3 months to get all I wanted on one toon it would take 5-6 months. So to fully outfit all 8 of my toons it would take 40-48 months (3-4 years). I guess thats one way to keep us grinding.
Yeah right people are already complaining about the drop rate and how long it takes to get gear, if Cryptic then started restricting how many STFs someones handle could on per day, yeah that won't go over to well, starting with this user.
Restricting how many STFs a users handle can do to the only system that is keeping a major percentage of people in STO will do one thing, User signs on and does the Maximum amount of STFs and signs off.
The best thing Cryptic could do, is get rid of the STF cooldown (or reduce it) and Death Penalty Timer that would help fix the problems with griefers ruining an STF. "Ah we got a griefer exit and reform team."
If you're worried about griefers, join a fleet instead of puggin it. Much more enjoyable and satisfying. There are several GREAT fleets out there that have enough people online to do STFs. Mine for example has several in the evenings that are willing to do STFs. We enjoy ourselves and best of all, I haven't had to hit a public queue in many months and I can still grind away.
Yes I agree that griefers can make PUGing extremely difficult. Most users will try and not to PUG them at all or like myself as little as possible. Even though I prefer not to PUG because of the occasional griefer and try to at first run STFs with friends/ fleet mates, second from one of several STF Chat Channels I am a member of, and then third a PUG. Running an STF in a PUG has one advantage that you don’t get from friends, fleet mates, or even the STF Chat Channels.
When you are in a group (Friends, Fleet, or STF CC) you get into a routine and you are only doing the STFs the best way you currently know how from the same people you learned from or taught to. Running the STFs with the same people over and over again and you won’t learn anything new as fast as you could learn something new in a PUG. I don’t know how many times I have been in a PUG and came across a new attack idea that I did not even think about or see before when running the same attack pattern with the same people over and over again.
PUGing can be a challenge and can give you several headaches, but PUGing an STF you could learn something new no matter how good of a STFer you or your fleet believes they are. I know the STFs very well, but I will never say I am a master of them because I keep my mind open to new and possibly better ideas.
There are multiple ways in freeing the captured officers on Star base 82, several ways to take down Armek on Vorn, different ways in taking out the power nodes underneath the Vega Colony, and which way is the best depends on the group. PUGing the STFs shares all ideas with everyone in the STO community.
PUGing a STF has another advantage in that you can help the newer STFers learn the STFs and help them become better and in turn those users will help others. I know there are a lot of them out there that don’t want to listen or just want to grief, but there are more of them out there that just want to learn the STFs and the more experienced STFers PUG elites and even normal STFs the better for us all.
PUGing can be very painful, you may not want to do them very often, myself included and griefers can make them even more painful, but they can also be very educational; you just need to keep your mind open to new ideas.
I am not saying don’t join a fleet or form a group of users to STF with; actually it is a very good idea to do so and especially if you are new to the STFs, but even though you have a group of users or a fleet that you can rely on, PUGing can still be very educational even to the experienced STFer.
I'll check those out for the info. Much appreciated.
Ive been in a couple of matches recently and others have been ticked at me for not killing the right borg. Prob is all they do is whinge, no-one tries to explain.
The mission with the Klingon ship in the middle and the Borg Birds of Prey..
I gather from what im reading everyone has to attack the same one, pods first then the borg ship? Maybe?
See, in game if no one says anything how can new people learn.
This is a basic reality of all MMO's. PUGS = griefers, leechers, leavers ... nothing will change that. If you want to be free of griefing, join a fleet. If you need to farm STFs in PUGS, accept the fact that a percentage of runs will fail due to the aforementioned player types.
PUGS are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get.