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# 1 New Escort idea
05-02-2012, 02:31 AM
I've recently started reading StarTrek: The Return, which is set right after the end of StarTrek: Generations and was written by William Shatner. In it is a Defiant class ship that is extremely powerful. Close to the begining of the book is a ship that I think would make a great model/insperation for a new escort ship, possibly a +1 fleet escort. I'll quote the book so you all can see that it IS cannon.

"Most Starfleet vessels were duranium white, proudly bearing the Federation's colors, boldly lit by running lights and identification beacons so all would recognize them on their missions of exploration.
But not all Starfleet missions involved exploration.
And some Starfleet vessels were as dark as the void between the stars, intentionally coated in microdiffracted carbon to absorb all visible radiation that fell upon them.
The U.S.S. Monitor was one such vessel, the latest in the Defiant-class, space black, on silent running, closing in on a dying, ancient world deep in the Core Frontier. Its destination: New Titan.
The ship was little more than an armored command saucer with integral warp nacelles. Over-powered, densely shielded, excessively armed, carrying more weaponry than three Galaxy-class starships. She was the result of Starfleet's fevered preparations to fight a war against the Borg. A war that had yet to come to pass."


By this passage, found at the begining of chapter five, there are ships in the Federation that are pure warships. I propose a +1 fleet escort that follows this setup. the stats would be pretty much as follows:


•Minimum Rank: Vice Admiral (level 50)
•Weapons: 6 Fore, 6 Aft
•Bridge Officers: 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Science
•Consoles: 5 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 3 Science
•Devices: 2
•Crew: 200
•Turn Rate: 15 degrees per second
•Impulse Modifier: 0.45
•Hull Strength: 50,000
•Shield Modifier: 1.5
•+25 Power to Weapons
•+10 Power to Shields
•Can load cannons
•Unique console: Battle Cloak - only equipable on this ship


As you can see, not quite 3 times the firepower of a Galaxy class ship, but still armed to the teeth and able to dish out massive amounts of damage in just a few seconds. I know that it'll never happen due to 'balance issues', but it's still cannon and an offical Starfleet ship.
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# 2
05-02-2012, 03:21 AM
Ahh yes nothing like an Overpowered escort thread.

1.) Weapons, way too many, 4 DHC's and 2 Torps forward with 4 Turrets and 2 Mines or Trico's in the aft.
2.) BOFF layout way overpowered, Two Lt.coms and still five BOFFs and no Ensign at all. Most ships have 12 BOFF abilities you have 14.
3.) 12 Consoles, typical Tier 5 has 9 and the Flagships have 10.
4.) 50,000 Hull on an Escort? Admittedly one that turns like a Sci Vessel, and your giving it Battle Cloak? Why that's not even in the description in the book. The Bird of Prey pays with the weakest hull in the game for it's Battle Cloak.
5.) Shield Modifier, 1.5 instead of .9 for an Escort again no logical reason.
6. Power Levels, generally a ship gets +20 to power or +15 if it's just to one stat, you have +25 to Weapon and +10 to Shields

Any Escort will easily do three times the damage of a cruiser when specced and built right.

It sounds like he was simply describing a typical Defiant with a black paint job, not some new super Defiant.
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# 3
05-02-2012, 10:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chakitty
•Weapons: 6 Fore, 6 Aft
•Unique console: Battle Cloak - only equipable on this ship
In order for this ship to have BOTH of these it'll have to cost like 2500 c points AND have like 20k hull, and 3k shields to balance out the OP.
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# 4
05-02-2012, 10:38 AM
Oh god the Shatnerverse
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# 5
05-02-2012, 10:44 AM
I'm a Fed, and I'm ashamed of this idea...
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# 6
05-02-2012, 11:00 AM
Did ANYBODY read the quoted section of the book? It appears that the answer would be a resounding "H#^L NO!" The quoted section states that it has 3 times the weaponry of a Galaxy class ship. To translate that directly to the game I'd have to double the weapons slots, which would make the ship practically useless. I did what I could to try to give it what the book describes when it comes to the game's terms. I guess that despite all the bickering and complaining, NOBODY wants a Fed ship that's cannon and a speficically designed warship.

Admin, Moderators, delete this thread, It's just going to attract flamers and trolls.
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# 7
05-02-2012, 11:03 AM
this is wet dream of every tactical officer.......(old players are not included in this thought)
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# 8
05-02-2012, 11:11 AM
I do not want to see any more overpowered ships in the game that make all other ship options not viable.
Instead, this is what I’d do with the ship you are talking about from the book.

•Minimum Rank: Vice Admiral (level 50)
•Weapons: 6 Fore, 2 Aft
•Bridge Officers: 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Ensign universal, 1 Lieutenant Science
•Consoles: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
•Devices: 2
•Crew: 200
•Turn Rate: 13 degrees per second
•Impulse Modifier: 0.40
•Hull Strength: 30,000
•Shield Modifier: 1.15
•+10 Power to Weapons
•+10 Power to Engines
•Can load cannons

•Unique ship trait:
Passive Masked Energy Signature
+2000 Starship Stealth. +3% Defense
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# 9
05-02-2012, 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chakitty
I'll quote the book so you all can see that it IS cannon.
I regret to inform you that books are not considered canon.

Only the TV and movies are canon.
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# 10
05-02-2012, 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shook-Yang
I regret to inform you that books are not considered canon.

Only the TV and movies are canon.
***Backs aways slowly from the well intentioned, but obviously I-WIN ship thread***

Whew almost got sucked into that one.
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