Originally Posted by wan5

Winning both events is fairly easy, thats not the problem.
You say you played for a few days, then my argument is not against you.

I can tell from your post english is not your primary language, but im talking about the guys that have been farming from my perspective for 4 months SOLID. I dont begrudge people winning, i myself have accumulated a fair amount of EC over a long period of time.

What i find bemusing is the amount of people asking in game or in fleet about the best way to make some ec, and i actually advise new comers to stay away from farmed zones.

As for your argument about it not effecting my gameplay? Its a rule buddy, its against the T&C's to sell ec, does it effect me personally? yes, i have to advise people of farmed zones and/or compete with these clowns myself. Most importantly though, its a rule, just as theft is unlawfull, the fact that the item stolen may or may not effect me does not change the fact its against the rules.

Or are you one of those that discards rules they think dont apply to them?

Please bear in mind, this would only effect 4 or 5 serious farmers, playing an hour or two of either event per day is not what im getting at, im talking about the people that seemingly exsist solely to farm, those that litterally do nothing but hammer sb24 or sit parked in a stealth ship in kerrat with their guns pressed up against borg repair drones.

Originally Posted by playhard88

spanish is my primary language, but i think my english is enough to understand what are u saying, don't worry.

Originally Posted by wan5

Once again, the complaint is not aimed at you. Start looking at MKXII tac consoles, or hell even MKXI tac consoles. I wanted to max out my Antiproton dps, to do this i had to spend 24m on three Antiproton Mag regulators mk xi very rare which gave a 28% increase each.

The same consoles in a mkxii will cost around 50 million EC each

What if we want to grind some good puprle mkxii consoles... well you will need the rights doffs to get a higher chance of a very rare, go price up 5 resolve engineers with a crit trait. Yes thats right, you will find bargain ones at 15m each, realisticly they go between 20-40 million ec.

There is no way in hell a user can raise that running stf's, no way no how, not in this lifetime. what do you earn per win in a stf... 100k perhaps a 500k if you get a lucky drop? Considering it takes at best 8mins to complete a stf.

SB24 can be complete in 3 mins, and drops include those high priced mkxi tac consoles, on average the sb24 winner will take away 3+ million for a 3 minute mission.

Kerrat is even worse, decode 1 borg transmission and kill 2 repair drones. 99% of the time thats a first place win right there, again netting either a mkx or mkxi purple item, again including those expensive tac consoles. This one is a travesty as the scoring system favors cloaked ships that dont engage the enemy. It truly is a p2w event. How bout those poor guys that you know fight the borg to get close enough to a a tower to decode it, they just wasted their time.

If your in kerrat and you see the decodes seem stuck at 7/8. Go take a look at those repair drones, ill garauntee theres a user sat there cloaked face pressed againts it, using some buffs and scatter volley/torp spread, two repair drones can be destroyed without moving your ship forward an inch. they just waiting for someone gullible enough to decode the last tower so they can have the win.

If you change instance in kerrat the drops decrease to mk1 drops, so basically you can either help the camper farm, or leave.

this fix would stop the few users taking advantage of these flaws, and in general wouldnt even effect the average user. There would be absolutley no need to alter teh drops in a stf, most end gamers would agree the dil is the reward for an stf win, the junk in the loot boxes at the end of a mission is just that.... junk.

Im only suggesting that drops become worthless after X amount of drops. X being the highest amount a real player would play, maybe its higher than 10-20, perhaps cryptic set it at 50 purple drops a day can the average real player say he drops 50 items a day in kerrat and 50 items a day in sb24? Would you be upset by having for example 100 very rare drops a day, or is it more than you generally drop?

They are classed as Very Rare afterall.

for example 50 x 3minute games will take 2 1/2 hours to complete, factor in losses say 10 losses bringing your game time to a straight 3 hours. Who here honestley would play kerrat for 3 hours then go play sb24 for a further 3 hours? the people effected would be those that i have witnessed sitting in warzones for months farming, not the average joe, these are the people breaking the t&c's selling the gold on sites and in the chat windows themselves.
The only people i see that could take umbridge at this solution is those farming for monetary gains.

Originally Posted by milner62

I have to say I do pretty good. I recently sold a Mk X console, uncommon tech on the exchange for 75,000 ec. Most of the loot I get I price high enough to make money but low enough to sell. I even sold 20 engine batteries for 50,000 ec. You can make good ec off selling the loot if you price it right and keep it up for that price till it sells

Originally Posted by wan5

Hey, as long as your getting enjoyment out of your play time, objective complete.

Id personally like to see how much these guys have funneled off into their bank accounts... judging by the spam i see occasionally its $10 for 10 million EC.

4 months that i have witnessed all day every day farmers... i bet they are clearing 50-60mil a day. The fact that they are still farming day in day out means they are keeping clear of that 1billion cap...

at 50 mil a day thats 6 BILLION ec over 4 months or $6000 at $10 for 10million ec. $18,000 USD yearly.

Cryptic, you guys LOVE the ca$h... its time to get your pimp sticks out and slap these *****es!

BTW, just visited kerrat again, same user, still farming... go see for yourselves.

Remember guys, they are here for $$$, simple as that. They do not care about the game, they are not interested at all. If they could profit playing barbies horse and ride, they would be playing that. If they could have a bot doing the work im sure they would. Id be shocked if these guys didnt have multiple computers running different games.

Farming for yourself is not the issue here, farming for monetary gains is.

Originally Posted by Tyranthraxis

I understand all of that, I just don't wanna see the rest of the community suffer because Cryptics only way to "stop" these violaters is to break an aspect of the game the rest of us can use in a Legit manner.

Originally Posted by Tyranthraxis

There is no MMO to date that doesn't have exploiters selling in game currency/items for money. By exploiters, I don't mean people who use a broken code to get better gear either, I just mean people who have found the easiest way to get items, which in turn gets them EC etc. They'll never be able to put it down completely no matter what. Just do your part to report those spamming chat(which considering I only ever see one like every month, you should go play Diablo 2, or WOW for a minute) and enjoy your game.