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# 231
06-22-2012, 08:38 AM
Spike is great against small ships (escorts, raiders) because they might get taken out in one hit and generally aren't as likely to have lots of bounce-back abilities.

Bigger ships... a skilled target should be able to mitigate the spike and then pressing the attack is vital (or doing something weird like distraction).

Ideally, a ship zips in, does a big alpha. Target panics and blows all his heals/whatnot. Then the rest of the team opens up.
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# 232
06-22-2012, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
Their average dps will be too low then.



The kills I have suffered from escorts in 1v1 could only be achieved by keeping up maximum pressure by keeping my carrier in front of their fore weapons. Because if they don't, see above.
Dude you fight morons, repeatedly. That is your arena experience.

When I sodomized you, I ***** you Flanks Only. I repeatedly was able to put my ship into your soft and gooey flanks, with casual use of throttle control and turning. Flying in a straight line will not keep you from having your flanks exploited.

Also? That's an even dumber idea than trying to circle around, because with the way shield distribution works, I could just zip over you and start stabbing your now weakened facing over and over again. All without flying infront of or behind you.

And I can keep plenty of DPS on target.

Conversely I can just suck you into a gravity well, tractor beam you and then it's GG Go Respawn Time for you.
Your ideas fail against anyone with Skill, because you don't have any. You do realize Escorts fighting escorts and bops, get plenty of practice staying out of each others forward arcs, and attacking their vulnerable less damage dealing flanks right? Infact that's escort flying 101 and that is against ships that are vastly superior to your own in Agility. Learn to attack the sides that have the least damage dealing capabilities and timing your burst damage so that it's ready when you are attacking their weakspots. In your case that's 50 percent of your ship. Actually it's more than that once you factor in the size of your fat arsed vessel. You are all like "Not true that doesn't happen to me everaafjdjkl;asfdjjafm m vgdeffdbjvm klfxcvd bdfvdvd!!!@!111111" You died 9 times in that five v Five. And the only reason you didn't die 15 times was they had a couple of pugs that would shoot and kill other people. You got Sodomized by myself, 7 times (and while I admit I am exponentially better at shooting Fat Ki.. Ships than most escorts you should have been able to at least live in a singular engagement especially since I did not once go to one of my Dueling Setups), and so thoroughly trounced by Hilberts Goomba that I'm amazed that some how didn't get your delusion of your skill level shattered.

Now before I further ruin this thread, I'm done with you until you post some other inane build in an attempt to get attention, and for that I will only answer that post. Until you show a desire to improve yourself we're done in this thread. I will help anyone that's just picked up a carrier, in this thread that shows genuine desire, and you do not. You just want the attention.

Last edited by mavairo; 06-22-2012 at 10:40 AM.
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# 233
06-22-2012, 10:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKogc...85366ABAAB7223

This is for you Soph tune in at 1 min 25 seconds into vid
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# 234
06-22-2012, 10:37 AM
god dammit sophie you are an absolute tool.

now you are arguing piloting with shelev and broken?

those guys are 100 times the pilot you are. maybe even more. matter of fact, we have seen these players become more accomplished by practicing on their PILOTING and altering their build to fit the situation and current demands of the game.

shelev's carrier will out heal and out dps yours any day of the week. and he is an engie.

broken.....well.....he will rip you apart in whatever he is in....prolly doesnt matter, as he has ripped me apart more times than i'd like to remember in arenas and such.

oh, and to re-itterate something, you tool.....

you PILOT your ship. you are the only person pressing the buttons. clicking the icons. you aren't commanding ****. you dont command your ship to brace for impact, you hit the ****ing button.....like ant pilot would press a damn button.

there is no one telling your weapons were to go but you, if you are barking orders at your bridge officers verbally, or in your head, you are even more misguided than i originally thought. its not your bridge officers fault you suck, its your fault.

PILOTING is positioning, timing, situational awareness, and understanding what your craft can and cannot do. this is why you will continue to fail. you lack even the basic understanding of what your craft is intended for, let alone the where-with-all to accomplish any task with the tools it provides you with.

have fun kill bad guys

horizon
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# 235
06-22-2012, 10:59 AM
Umm....yeah!...what horizon said...and stuff...

Seriously, you've previously stated that you want to command/spam pets, and that building a high dps escort is "easy". Why don't you just get a stupid armitage, and spam your little pets and prove to us how "easy" it is and actually fill a role on your team that a tac is supposed to actually fill. DAMAGE!

I'll tell you why you won't though. As "easy" as you say it is, in reality your not that great of a "pilot" (yet), and you feel safer in a zombie build like the one you've apparently (lol) refined. Instead of always asking us to "prove it" how about you step up your game, jump in an escort, and you prove to us just how easy it is. Besides, half the ppl in here including myself have proved our credentials by blowing you up after you've claimed that in a 1v1, you shouldn't be able to blow up each other.
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# 236
06-22-2012, 12:21 PM
Guys, are you telling me that i merely dreamt someone here claiming transphasic torpedos working in a way that they don't?
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# 237
06-22-2012, 12:39 PM
i believe the premise is that your carrier is a slow turner and your overall dps would be ****canned because getting the torpedos on target against escorts that can out turn and out run you would be a chore in itself whereas using beams would be more practical. Your lack of offensive powers like HY3 and Spread3 would make your carrier nothing more than what it already is, a novelty
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# 238
06-22-2012, 12:53 PM
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i believe the premise is that your carrier is a slow turner and your overall dps would be ****canned because getting the torpedos on target against escorts that can out turn and out run you would be a chore in itself whereas using beams would be more practical. [...]
Then I probably only imagined blowing up escorts with that build.
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# 239
06-22-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
Then I probably only imagined blowing up escorts with that build.
Well let's not start a discussion of stuff you've imagined. That could be a whole other stupid threads worth of posts. Heck, it probably could be a book ;-)

So is that a "no" to my challenge then? Maybe you have me on ignore now...
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# 240
06-22-2012, 01:14 PM
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