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# 11
05-06-2012, 08:33 PM
In today's ask cryptic DStall said that STF Borg are getting a cross the board nerf.
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# 12
05-06-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Butters
In today's ask cryptic DStall said that STF Borg are getting a cross the board nerf.
He said no such thing. He said Borg damage has already been nerfed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kazapsky
Only reliable way to avoid getting pasted by Borg torpedoes is to attack from outside their firing arc. Between the invisible torp bug, the badly-overtuned damage output of the Borg in general, and Cryptic apparently not knowing how their own code works, you can't count on any level of resists, cooldowns, or raw HP to keep you alive from one moment to the next.
I, and many other players, stay alive just fine.
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# 13
05-06-2012, 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amuneli
He said no such thing. He said Borg damage has already been nerfed.
so he did, my bad
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# 14
05-06-2012, 08:54 PM
Indeed, my Defiant can take the hits fine so long as I am not caught with my pants down. ie facing shield below half.

If a Defiant with full shields can survive you can too. Oh and FYI before the claims that i am one the few elites looking down on people. 1. I am not looking down just stating it is possible and 2, I am NOT elite. Regular PVPers can kick my **s. But I have learned alot listening and creeping their forums and tips.

I recomend that you guys do the same, try keybinds, understand how to chain BO powers. You can survive and take your game up 200%
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# 15
05-07-2012, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by noblet
No amount of hull kinetic resists on anything short of a carrier will let you hull tank even a fraction of the torp spread volley in ESTF. You have to have enough shield buffer to absorb most of the volley. Keep those shields up. In other words, if you're escort/bop, you're sunk, it's impossible. Cryptic hates you.
I disagree. My Tac Escort can survive both the Tactical Cube's invisi-torpedoes and Donatra's Torpedo spread if i pop Brace for impact + Emergency to Shields. You just need to see it coming (if you get targeted by the cube, expect the torpedoes in the next few seconds. Donatra is easy - if you keep your distance you have enough time to pop both Skills before her torp. spread reaches you)
(Note: i Run the MACO shield)

Also for those who don't know - there is a blind spot above the Tac cubes where their torpedoes don't reach you, so even if you are squishy BoP, you need to worry only about the beams.

So basically Elite STFs are pretty easy for Tactical ships as long as you have the Right Gear, Boff powers etc...
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# 16
05-07-2012, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
Through shields? You have the wrong shields.
Think so?


Think again.


Or maybe a lot of people in this thread don't play on Elite often?




Borg Negh'Var Warship deals 72694 (166385) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo



Check out that base damage (the one in red), this was against an Escort with over 50% hull resistances (Yes, I had popped cooldowns), a single Field Generator and MK XI MACO Shield.
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# 17
05-07-2012, 06:18 AM
I had some luck with activating all damage resistance buffs at my disposal, but usually there follows a second invistorp or something else, so that everything is in cool down, while my hull is at ten percent and as a result I see my nice ship rolling on its axis and exploding.
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# 18
05-07-2012, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ogresan View Post
I am curious as to how we are expected to survive this. Worse is when you are close enough to the spawn point when you die that same Borg BoP gets you with another. Keep up the great work Cryptic.

Clownshoes outfit ffs.
It’s strange that with all the adjustments that Cryptic has stated that they’ve made to the NPC Borg that one shot kills still seem to be happening quite regularly.

I’ve been noticing since the last adjustment that was made to the NPC Borg damage output that the Borg Negh var and Borg Raptor seem to be hitting much harder.

During my last CSE run I took a one shot with my Vo’Quv through full shields and hull from a Negh Var (granted I was blindsided by it) and also in that same run I got 2 shotted by a Raptor.

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the Borg NPC ships will open fire on you from about 13k out?

All in all I have noticed that the Borg Cubes and Gates have not one shotted me in the past week but other teammates have stated that that they were still taking one shots from Borg Tac Cubes during some of my runs.
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# 19
05-07-2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 0Gambit0 View Post
It’s strange that with all the adjustments that Cryptic has stated that they’ve made to the NPC Borg that one shot kills still seem to be happening quite regularly.

I’ve been noticing since the last adjustment that was made to the NPC Borg damage output that the Borg Negh var and Borg Raptor seem to be hitting much harder.

During my last CSE run I took a one shot with my Vo’Quv through full shields and hull from a Negh Var (granted I was blindsided by it) and also in that same run I got 2 shotted by a Raptor.

Has anyone else noticed that sometimes the Borg NPC ships will open fire on you from about 13k out?

All in all I have noticed that the Borg Cubes and Gates have not one shotted me in the past week but other teammates have stated that that they were still taking one shots from Borg Tac Cubes during some of my runs.
I don't know why Cryptic wouldn't just scrap the current borg arsenal altogether. Replace that pwnage torp spread and heavy torp (invisible or not) with lots of spamming beam faw and extra debuffs.

One shot is always regarded as unfair by playerbase of any mmo, but high dps is considered challenging. Makers of typical mmos spend extra effort to make it impossible for even poorly equipped players to be one shot, but instead spread the death over a number of seconds, enough time to react and toggle counter, even though the end result is the same.
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# 20
05-07-2012, 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by USS_Ultimatum
Think so?


Think again.


Or maybe a lot of people in this thread don't play on Elite often?




Borg Negh'Var Warship deals 72694 (166385) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo



Check out that base damage (the one in red), this was against an Escort with over 50% hull resistances (Yes, I had popped cooldowns), a single Field Generator and MK XI MACO Shield.
Shield power levels too low maybe? Since shields are much better at taking torpedo hits, its always better to invest in shields over hull in STFs.
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