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# 21
05-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Not only is fighting the Fek'ihir and those missions the BEST in ALL OF STO hands down but using the Kar'Fi and its EEEEVIL pets is absolutely awesome. The Kar'Fi was the ONLY NPC ship besides the Borg that ever actually killed me. Took me awhile to realize its frigates were dropping Tricobalt Mines and that it was disabling me to let them kill me.
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# 22
05-08-2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomas45 View Post
Wtf just happened to this thread
The innate IQ of it dropped?

The Greeks saved the world evidently against the Persian Hordes bent on everyones enslavement so the Western Whites could pratice thier own form of slavery and somebody is reporting it?

To be honest I'm a little confused by it all. I never realized that White Cowboys owned slaves.
Kinda gives a bad image of Roy Rodgers, John Wayne and Lee VanCLeef.
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# 23
05-08-2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Shinkuu_Akagan
Not only is fighting the Fek'ihir and those missions the BEST in ALL OF STO hands down but using the Kar'Fi and its EEEEVIL pets is absolutely awesome. The Kar'Fi was the ONLY NPC ship besides the Borg that ever actually killed me. Took me awhile to realize its frigates were dropping Tricobalt Mines and that it was disabling me to let them kill me.
The tricobalts were made worse by the chroniton torpedoes. I kept having problems with being slowed to the point that I couldn't escape the mines.

Though the worst thing has to be that super warp plasma. First time I hit that stuff it killed me before I figured out what it was actually doing.
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# 24
05-08-2012, 11:54 AM
How did this thread get to such a rose tinted view of the greeks? 300 was an okay movie and only very very loosely based on real events. The 300 in STO sounds way more badass, even if they are klinkers.

I don't think I've ever played that particular mission and now I have a good excuse to fire up my one klink toon.
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# 25
05-08-2012, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sollvax
no I mean the REAL 300 who the "comic book" are based on
who held the line and gave the world a chance to gather soldiers

the Persian invasions Failed (this is basic history)
and the Persians are now again a rising power

Its like disrespecting the Alamo defenders , or the men of Roakes Drift
just because someone made a bad movie does not change the facts

Those men saved us all
They died with honour and are remembered by all living Greeks
Tell that to the Helots. I doubt they felt very "saved" by their Spartan oppressors. It's genrally omitted that the Spartans dragged 900 (according to Herodotus) indentured Helot soldiers to the battle. It's also generally omitted that several other Hellenic city states comitted troops to the action, several sending noticably more than Sparta. Greece as a whole pulled together, and Sparta took the credit.

But I think the most important part is that very few empires or nation states of that era could be considered morally superior or more socially progressive than their neighbours. The Persian Empire's various dynasties have merely had their name dragged through the mud more. Western histories of the era are written mostly by historians of the Greek nations, and later, the Roman Empire, both of which had a serious beef with the Arascid, Parthian and Sassanid empires that fall under the umbrella of "Persian". And I expect the Persians saw Hellenic civilization in precisely the same way, especially after Alexander the Great was done with them.

As for the Rose Tinted view Lord Vale Cortez? History is written by the victors.

Also, the Fek'Ihri story arc is totally awesome. You basicly tick off every item on a "Things to do before you ascend to Stovokor" list.
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# 26
05-08-2012, 12:31 PM
I have 5 KDF characters. two of them have done that mission. SO FUN.
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# 27
05-08-2012, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DecadeComplete
I have 5 KDF characters. two of them have done that mission. SO FUN.
Yeah, looking back on it, it's hard to find a favourite bit. It's epic after epic after epic.
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# 28
05-08-2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sollvax
Depends on who you mean by the Greeks and what you mean by slavery

theres a difference between a few people who were indentured for debt in most cases and an empire where EVERYONE not persian was effectively a slave
The Spartans of course. That is who the 300 were made up of.



The helots: Εἵλωτες / HeÃ*lôtes) were an unfree population group that formed the main population of Laconia and the whole of Messenia (areas of Sparta). Their exact status was already disputed in antiquity: according to Critias, they were "especially slaves"[1] whereas to Pollux, they occupied a status "between free men and slaves".[2] Tied to the land, they worked in agriculture as a majority and economically supported the Spartan citizens. They were ritually mistreated, humiliated and even slaughtered: every autumn, during the Crypteia, they could be killed by a Spartan citizen without fear of repercussion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helots

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Originally Posted by sollvax
You really need to learn the difference between "Racism" and "not being totally blind"
Persia is once again a rising power , do you deny that?
Seriously dude. You really need to back off the geopolitics. Seems your take on reality is based on media manufactured propaganda.

Besides the fact that its not aloud to be discussed in the forum as it leads to flaming and discord.
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# 29
05-08-2012, 12:39 PM
What the deuce?
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# 30
05-08-2012, 12:55 PM
the media is as it has always been a total joke
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