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Lt. Commander
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It never fails to put an evil smirk on my face when Star Trek influences RL. Check this out.

http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/

It will never be built as is, of course, and the whole warp drive thing is still a bit problematic. But it's a very well thought out and viable next gen spacecraft.
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# 2
05-11-2012, 11:38 PM
Interesting page, but where is this guy going to get $2 - 4 trillion for 200-300 heavy lifter launches and starship components and people to get this done?

However, I LOVE THIS. I love the fact that somebody feels so passionate as I do to actually do something!

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# 3
05-12-2012, 12:49 AM
Actually the launch costs were only a small part of the overall cost. Dude actually crunched the numbers. 277 million pounds total payload includes materials for construction, tools, and some project materials (he bundled 3 shuttles and Mars supply depot into the project). Assuming a rate of $1000 a pound that's a cool 227 billion spread out over 20 years and 70 billion to get started for equipment (lifters, launch pads etc). It's the actual materials and equipment that are really expensive. 3 shuttles, 3 nuclear power plants, some 60 million lbs. of superstructure...


http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Gen1-USS-Enterprise-Cost-and-Mass-Estimates-v2.png


Total cost over 20 years 983 billion or just under 50 billion/year. Just to put that in perspective, the US military budget in 2010 was about 680 billion.
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# 4
05-12-2012, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tosmonkey
Total cost over 20 years 983 billion or just under 50 billion/year. Just to put that in perspective, the US military budget in 2010 was about 680 billion.
Oh my figures reflect our insatiable American inflation, lol. After all it would be the year 2032 by then

Man thankyou for posting this! I saved it to my bookmarks.
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# 5
05-12-2012, 02:25 AM
Nice read! Hopefully, we can keep NASA going, since this planet is only going to last its given lifetime. We can reproduce. Earth cannot, unless all living beings upon it are destroyed in the process.

However, should it ever happen, I would be extremely concerned with hacking. Imagine if some group of radicals got into the artificial gravity systems. They could completely squash the crew.
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# 6
05-12-2012, 02:09 PM
Artificial gravity as the proposed ship would have it would be based on having a rotating habitat section. "Turning up" the gravity to dangerous levels would require making it spin at least twice the normal rate, which would probably require over-driving the spin motors beyond their design capacity--or at least would take an hour or two to happen.

I do think that the 20 year timeline is a bit optimistic however--maybe 50 years. It will become much easier once we get a cheaper Earth-to-orbit method than today's throw-away booster rockets.
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# 7
05-13-2012, 12:29 AM
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I do think that the 20 year timeline is a bit optimistic however--maybe 50 years. It will become much easier once we get a cheaper Earth-to-orbit method than today's throw-away booster rockets.


You rang sir.....? (Lurch voice)


Self contained hypersail nacelle core.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5363/engine0001.png


Lt. Commander
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# 8
05-13-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChibiClari View Post
I do think that the 20 year timeline is a bit optimistic however--maybe 50 years. It will become much easier once we get a cheaper Earth-to-orbit method than today's throw-away booster rockets.
The cost estimates are optimistic as well. Let's tack on 40% for corruption and graft. The possibilities are still very exciting.
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# 9
05-13-2012, 06:46 PM
Reminds me of the scene in Galaxy Quest where the kid/fan is confronted with the fact that 'Its just a tv show'
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# 10
05-13-2012, 06:52 PM
don't see it panning out. Wouldn't CBS try to sue at some point. Cause it's ripping off a ship design.
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