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# 11
05-19-2012, 07:51 AM
PvE/STF wise its a beast, probably the single best blockade style ship in the game.

PvP wise... ehh.... the lack of flight deck doff's, along with the fact that klingon carriers generally have it "better" in most respects save runabouts leaves the Atrox playing a "hey atleast I'm not a science ship guys!" sorta roll.
You can tank, but not to the point where it will matter. You are about on par maybe abit worse/better than a cruiser tank wise, personally I think abit worse but it can vary but thats ball parking it. The real issue is utter and total failure on a damage front, you NEED a pet escort or group of cruisers to kill stuff for you. Generally speaking any DECENT pvp built ships from escort to cruiser can and will tank your damage like they just don't care.
That said runabouts in pvp really give you a roll, without runabouts/with them nerfed, I have no clue what an Atrox would actually do in pvp besides go "atleast I take alot of damage to kill" at which point why not run a cruiser? Peregrines are basically ToDuj fighters but with phasers instead of disruptors, klinks tend to consider ToDuj "meh" yet for the Atrox its the king damage dealer, consider that abit.

What would the Atrox need?
FRIGATES! Both klink carriers have special frigates they can launch, they come with a variety of decent boff skills and a wider assortment of weapons but are limited on deployment numbers. A more supportive fed style frigate for the Atrox would be most welcomed to help give the carrier some staying power and even the playing field of klink carrier vs fed carrier.
Flight Deck Doffs. These are supposedly in the works, but seriously they needed to have been ready with the launch a carrier with the doffs vs a carrier without is like a ship with shields vs a ship without shields. Literally they are that important.

So if your main intention is pve/stf's congrats the Atrox will serve you decently, if not excellently. If your primary intention is to give the klinks a taste of there own medicine, well maybe in the future when the Atrox gets more toys to level the playing field, until then you can tractor beam spam bops and troll them I guess....
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# 12
05-20-2012, 05:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shelev
PvE/STF wise its a beast, probably the single best blockade style ship in the game.

PvP wise... ehh.... the lack of flight deck doff's, along with the fact that klingon carriers generally have it "better" in most respects save runabouts leaves the Atrox playing a "hey atleast I'm not a science ship guys!" sorta roll.
You can tank, but not to the point where it will matter. You are about on par maybe abit worse/better than a cruiser tank wise, personally I think abit worse but it can vary but thats ball parking it. The real issue is utter and total failure on a damage front, you NEED a pet escort or group of cruisers to kill stuff for you. Generally speaking any DECENT pvp built ships from escort to cruiser can and will tank your damage like they just don't care.
That said runabouts in pvp really give you a roll, without runabouts/with them nerfed, I have no clue what an Atrox would actually do in pvp besides go "atleast I take alot of damage to kill" at which point why not run a cruiser? Peregrines are basically ToDuj fighters but with phasers instead of disruptors, klinks tend to consider ToDuj "meh" yet for the Atrox its the king damage dealer, consider that abit.

What would the Atrox need?
FRIGATES! Both klink carriers have special frigates they can launch, they come with a variety of decent boff skills and a wider assortment of weapons but are limited on deployment numbers. A more supportive fed style frigate for the Atrox would be most welcomed to help give the carrier some staying power and even the playing field of klink carrier vs fed carrier.
Flight Deck Doffs. These are supposedly in the works, but seriously they needed to have been ready with the launch a carrier with the doffs vs a carrier without is like a ship with shields vs a ship without shields. Literally they are that important.

So if your main intention is pve/stf's congrats the Atrox will serve you decently, if not excellently. If your primary intention is to give the klinks a taste of there own medicine, well maybe in the future when the Atrox gets more toys to level the playing field, until then you can tractor beam spam bops and troll them I guess....
Well said!
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# 13
05-21-2012, 11:05 AM
there is somthing kdf need to understand they are all like hahaha everyone who bought fed carrier wasted there money it dosnt have any special consoles.YES thats right but the reason we have to pay for it is because fed are not supposed to have carriers in the first place.ohh and delta flyers dunubes and any other large pet shuttle or runabout are the ships frigates fighters are cat stalkers type 8 shuttles pergine fighters and yah thats it
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# 14
05-21-2012, 11:45 AM
I bought one but didn't like the playstyle, so a bit of wasted money (kinda wish there was a return for buys like this, but I get it. ). However it is a good looking ship.
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# 15 Meh
05-21-2012, 06:51 PM
I bought it today after playing the karfi on my other account...I fail to see what the fuss is all about. Anyone have any decent builds they want to share?
Thanks!
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# 16
05-21-2012, 07:08 PM
Ugly, ugly ship. But very powerful. Two assisted me, another escort, and a sci in killing the Borg in the sector defense stuff. We killed the boss quick.

But still, very ugly. Though I do like the two flight-decks that run through it...
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# 17
05-25-2012, 02:20 AM
A very cool ship, which performs pretty well for me.

I currently run an energy/shield drain build by combining polaron weapons with energy siphon, shield damaging tractor beams and advanced stalker fighters. In PvE at least, it can pretty much shut down anything, to the point where a shieldless escort could tank a tactical cube. The stalker fighter's thoron device actually doubles as a torpedo so their damage isn't too bad, plus the jem'hadar shield damage attack they have tends to take down shields VERY quickly.

Also, I just got a reply to a ticket I submitted ingame, and fighters do in fact benefit from player's skills. I did not know that, but it explains why they're so effective at shutting down stuff.

But I digress...the main power of the Atrox, in my opinion, is what science ships were meant to do: weaken, disable, and annoy. And it does that very well for me, but I need the stalker fighters to do it, not the peregines or the runabouts.
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# 18
05-25-2012, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockerd View Post
Personally I love the Atrox Caitain carrier the design alone is beutiful.
For carrier type functions, there's a DS9 era Galaxy Class with double stack shuttlebay setup.

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l...G2_Shuttle.jpg

For Starfleet fighter carrier role, I prefer this Galaxy Class with double shuttlebay variant than the far-from-canon Catian Atrox Carrier.

This Galaxy Class with double shuttlebay variant is from DS9: Sacrifice of Angels episode.
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# 19
05-25-2012, 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shelev
PvE/STF wise its a beast, probably the single best blockade style ship in the game.

PvP wise... ehh.... the lack of flight deck doff's, along with the fact that klingon carriers generally have it "better" in most respects save runabouts leaves the Atrox playing a "hey atleast I'm not a science ship guys!" sorta roll.
You can tank, but not to the point where it will matter. You are about on par maybe abit worse/better than a cruiser tank wise, personally I think abit worse but it can vary but thats ball parking it. The real issue is utter and total failure on a damage front, you NEED a pet escort or group of cruisers to kill stuff for you. Generally speaking any DECENT pvp built ships from escort to cruiser can and will tank your damage like they just don't care.
That said runabouts in pvp really give you a roll, without runabouts/with them nerfed, I have no clue what an Atrox would actually do in pvp besides go "atleast I take alot of damage to kill" at which point why not run a cruiser? Peregrines are basically ToDuj fighters but with phasers instead of disruptors, klinks tend to consider ToDuj "meh" yet for the Atrox its the king damage dealer, consider that abit.

What would the Atrox need?
FRIGATES! Both klink carriers have special frigates they can launch, they come with a variety of decent boff skills and a wider assortment of weapons but are limited on deployment numbers. A more supportive fed style frigate for the Atrox would be most welcomed to help give the carrier some staying power and even the playing field of klink carrier vs fed carrier.
Flight Deck Doffs. These are supposedly in the works, but seriously they needed to have been ready with the launch a carrier with the doffs vs a carrier without is like a ship with shields vs a ship without shields. Literally they are that important.

So if your main intention is pve/stf's congrats the Atrox will serve you decently, if not excellently. If your primary intention is to give the klinks a taste of there own medicine, well maybe in the future when the Atrox gets more toys to level the playing field, until then you can tractor beam spam bops and troll them I guess....
with my Atrox i can tank the Tac cube at the end of Infected Elite just fine. its all mostly about staying near the edge of weapons range. when im in defense mode i have almost 125 shield power without ay buffs. i have RSP, Transfer shield strength, eng team sci team and my engineer ability's. i once tanked that tac cube and damaged it down to 69% without any aid while the rest of the team killed the gate.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rvalencia View Post
For carrier type functions, there's a DS9 era Galaxy Class with double stack shuttlebay setup.

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l...G2_Shuttle.jpg

For Starfleet fighter carrier role, I prefer this Galaxy Class with double shuttlebay variant than the far-from-canon Catian Atrox Carrier.

This Galaxy Class with double shuttlebay variant is from DS9: Sacrifice of Angels episode.
Such a ship would likely be a Flight deck cruiser, since there are so many galaxy variants in game already it would make sense to bring in a new ship for a true carrier to make the distinction more obvious as to wether or not your facing a normal Exploration cruise, a refit, or a Flight Deck Cruiser.
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# 20
05-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Over all I like it, however I HATE that regardless of what engines I put on it, the turn modifier for any engine drops to 0.1 which I think is ridiculous...
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