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Lt. Commander
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# 11
05-18-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stargate525 View Post
With as much automation as there could be in the 2Xth century, I can't see a ship that size needing any more than 1000 crew.

So my guess is yes?
Starfleet ships can work with far less crew then they have. However, more crew means more people to repair systems in case of damage.

As for crews being on ships with families? doubtful. During the Dominion war all families and unneeded civilians were removed from the ships. This is a wartime, so I don't think most of your ships farther from the core Federation worlds would have families.

As somebody said though, it's up to each persons 'character'. Mine would probably use the extra space for more crewmen, and MACOs/ground forces. Among other upgrades and such.
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# 12
05-18-2012, 12:41 PM
IN an rp sense, I would let my crew bring their families with them, but make sure they are fully aware this is a Starfleet vessel first and foremost. They know and accept the risk to their families if they want them on board. Family quarters are located near the centre of the ship to protect them as much as possible. But this is only on my galaxy and Sovereign classes. And there are no facilities for them, like schools and arboretums. So most of my crew leave them planetside (though there are a few who have them onboard. Mostly childless couples though. I put those spouses to work in The Bar, or other volunteer positions).
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# 13
05-18-2012, 12:44 PM
If your doff roster are to be believed, there are at least some civilians aboard.

As for the crew size, sure the ship can be 'flown' by a small crew, but there are plenty of tasks that need to be performed. Stuff like maintenance, administrative tasks, housing the crew, boarding parties, away teams, etc.

There'd be enough to do for a large crew.
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# 14
05-18-2012, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by grylak
IN an rp sense, I would let my crew bring their families with them, but make sure they are fully aware this is a Starfleet vessel first and foremost. They know and accept the risk to their families if they want them on board. Family quarters are located near the centre of the ship to protect them as much as possible. But this is only on my galaxy and Sovereign classes. And there are no facilities for them, like schools and arboretums. So most of my crew leave them planetside (though there are a few who have them onboard. Mostly childless couples though. I put those spouses to work in The Bar, or other volunteer positions).
canon wise there were schools, didn't you see the early TNG episode where wesley crusher was complaining about not wanting to learn calculus? The schools are smaller but I seriously doubt it would be an issue as individualized instruction would be much easier with star fleet technology.

So from a rp standpoint I'd imagine the bigger cruisers (galaxy, star cruiser, oddysey, etc) would certainly have them aboard. While escorts and samller science ships (intrepid) wouldn't. The nebula might though.

Most cruisers are supposed to be geared for exploration and diplomacy. So the conflict issue wouldn't be an issue, especially for the ones with saucer seperation.
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# 15
05-18-2012, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yogurt21
canon wise there were schools, didn't you see the early TNG episode where wesley crusher was complaining about not wanting to learn calculus? The schools are smaller but I seriously doubt it would be an issue as individualized instruction would be much easier with star fleet technology.

So from a rp standpoint I'd imagine the bigger cruisers (galaxy, star cruiser, oddysey, etc) would certainly have them aboard. While escorts and samller science ships (intrepid) wouldn't. The nebula might though.

Most cruisers are supposed to be geared for exploration and diplomacy. So the conflict issue wouldn't be an issue, especially for the ones with saucer seperation.

I know they were in TNG, that's why I made a point of saying they were not in my own ships. Those rooms are taken up with science labs, training rooms, cargo bays, quarters etc. People seemed to be talking about their own ships in an rp perspective, so I was just tossing in my two pence.
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# 16
05-18-2012, 01:32 PM
Me thinks it really depends on their assignment. Any ship in a high-risk zone would probably not have many families/extra civilians on board.

However, those assigned to 'safer' zones, or away from the war fronts might.
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# 17
05-18-2012, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SierraBishop
Yep I'd agree that there are still a lot of ships with families aboard I would go so far as to say that the ones on the front lines or designated warships don't
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Me thinks it really depends on their assignment. Any ship in a high-risk zone would probably not have many families/extra civilians on board.

However, those assigned to 'safer' zones, or away from the war fronts might.
umm yeah what he said
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# 18
05-18-2012, 03:58 PM
As captain only you can answer that question, for myself, no not in a time of war would I allow unnessecary civillians onto the ship. And my various Civillian DOFFs are well aware of the risks.
Lieutenant
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# 19
06-30-2012, 09:37 PM
I would put civilian crew and families on my Luna class, although not as much as a Galaxy class or Sovereign, probably enough for my senior officers or anyone willing for that position. I believe that they are aware of the risks, and besides Luna are designed for exploration much like the Galaxy, which justifies the reason.
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# 20
07-01-2012, 01:35 AM
I'd say that practice died out after the Dominion war started, maybe even after the losses of the Odyssey and the Enterprise-D. If Keogh, on the Odyssey, hadn't thought ahead to offload his civilians at DS9 they would have been killed when the ship was rammed, and I can see where an inquiry board might decide that Picard and Riker placed the civilians on board in danger during the battle of Veridian III. Look at the panic during the separation sequence. Not to mention all the other battles the Enterprise-D was in without separating the saucer to save the families. Heck, look at the whole idea of separating the saucer to save the civilians, if the Stardrive was destroyed, don't you think the sublight saucer section would have made an easy target for whoever destroyed the stardrive
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