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Lt. Commander
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I am scientist. I have Bortasqu' Command Cruiser.
3 x Console - Tactical - Disruptor Induction Coil MkXII rare
1 x Console - Engineering - Plasma Distribution Manifold MkXI rare
1 x Console - Engineering - EPS Flow Regulator MkXI rare
I have 6 beam array MkXI very rare.

When I play KASE I can't kill more than 2 probes. It seems I have not enough dps. I can't get much dps. What is my mistake? I have no idea...
Lt. Commander
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# 2
05-21-2012, 01:10 AM
What weapons are you using?
What boff powers?
Drop the EPS, perhaps for a weapons power boost console, more neutronium, borg or SIF

Also, you're not an escort. You need to be able to tank a bit so you can stay alive DPSing (even if that means at a lower rate) for longer.
More time alive = more DPSing and less waiting.

Maybe try Cannons, DHC's and turrets. For STF work I enjoy using 1x DHC, 2x Cannons, 1x Photon torp and 4x turrets rear.
Run with 2x TT1 and Cannon rapid fires and it seems to dish the damage out rather well.
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# 3
05-21-2012, 01:34 AM
I'm not at home, I can't say about my boff.
I have 6 beam array disruptor MkXI very rare. I thought it was a good idea because a day I played Pvp, and a guy with a Bortasqu almost one shoot me with his all of beam
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# 4
05-21-2012, 01:52 AM
The reason is that cruiser in general don't are supposed to provide any dps. You are supposed to be an heal boat and maybe a punching ball, keeping the VIPs of this game, the tac escort players, alive so they can have even more fun. But only as long the enemy don't get organized (as in PvP), assisting you or your heal target in 5 seconds to death. I (eng captain) fly a Bortas'Q command cruiser by my self with 8 MK XI disrupter beam arrays (these very rare +Borg Stuff) and the only time I do some decent dps is if nadion inversion is up and I combine this with FAW or BO.

I now started an tac in a BoP which is currently lvl 40, and even with crap gear he does more (spiked) dps than my well equipped eng on a cruiser by simply throwing all +dmg skills with CRF. But the ship with tac captain is alot more of squishy, needs more flying skill, but makes alot of more fun than flying this pregnant blue whale named Bortas'Q.

If you want to do damage with your Bortas'Q ... start a tac captain and fly an escort/BOP. Ok, and if that is no option for you equip the Bortas'Q it with DBB or DHCs front and turrets back. In this form you can't go against fast moving objects (and PvP is completely out), but you will do alot of more damage to cubes, spheres and gates than using beam arrays.
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# 5
05-21-2012, 02:06 AM
I know this. My main is engineer from federation side on a Galaxy-X.
So as scientist Orion on a Bortasqu I can heal anyone and give some special effect.
But When I'm playing KASN, people laught at me because of my low dps. It's really and extremely boring.
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# 6
05-21-2012, 05:35 AM
In a Sovereign I pop TT1, BFAW1, TS2 & DEM1. All four Probes die no problems. And DEM isn't always ready.

I have 123 Weapons Power, run six Tertryon Beams and two Quantum Torps. 3 Mk XI Blue Tetryon consoles. All weapons are MK XII Borg ones.

So I don't know why it's not working for you, but I suspect your BOFF layout is the problem. Oh yeah and I'm specced as a tank, not DPS.

So what are all your consoles, BOFF powers, Deflector, Engine & Shield.
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# 7
05-21-2012, 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feistyfawn View Post
I am scientist. I have Bortasqu' Command Cruiser.
3 x Console - Tactical - Disruptor Induction Coil MkXII rare
1 x Console - Engineering - Plasma Distribution Manifold MkXI rare
1 x Console - Engineering - EPS Flow Regulator MkXI rare
I have 6 beam array MkXI very rare.

When I play KASE I can't kill more than 2 probes. It seems I have not enough dps. I can't get much dps. What is my mistake? I have no idea...
(4) Tactical Energy consoles
(1) Field generator console {+18% shields} (1) field Amplifier consoles { +13% shield regenrate}
(2) Nuetronium consoles (1) Borg console or armor of choice (1) Armor of choice

If you are the healer then This set-up may help;

EPTA1 EPTS2 EXT2 A2SIF3
BFAW1 APD1
EPTA1 EPTS1 ET3
BFAW1
ST1 HE2

rotate the EPTA1 and EPTS2 for maximum uptime. Save the EXT2, HE2 and ET3 for heals.

If you wish to be more DPS oriented;

ET1 EPTS2 EPTS3 A2SIF3
TT1 APD1 BFAW3
BFAW1 APB1
ST1
HE1 TS2

but as a science toon you may find being a good DPS boat difficult.
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# 8
05-21-2012, 06:40 AM
Yes maybe you're right about my boff. But what should I do with boff? There is 2 boff for tactical position on my Bortasqu.
The first one can do :
- Beam Array: Overload II
- Beam Array: Fire at Will I

The second one:
- Beam Array: Overload I

My console:
Engineering:
1 x Console - Engineering - EPS Flow Regulator MkXI rare
1 x Console - Engineering - Neutronium Alloy MkXI rare
1 x Console - Engineering - Tetraburnium Hull Armor MkXI rare
1 xConsole - Engineering - Plasma Distribution Manifold

Tactical:
3 x Console - Tactical - Disruptor Induction Coil MkXII rare
Console - Universal - Disruptor Autocannon

Science:
1 x Console - Science - Shield Emitter Amplifier MkXII rare
1 x Console - Universal - HoH'SuS Bird-of-Prey

Full disruptor MxXI very rare or MkXII very rare
Front:
1 DBB Mk XII very rare
2 x beam array MkXI very rare
1 quantum torpedo MkXI very rare

Back:
1 turret Mk XII
2 x beam array MkXI very rare
1 quantum torpedo MkXI very rare
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# 9
05-21-2012, 07:12 AM
I'd drop the DBB and the Beam Overloads.

You have a turn rate of 5.5 base. I don't think you have enough forward time to use it. I noticed my DPS dropped when I had the DBB in the front of my Sovereign because of the way I flew it.

Infact my concept for a Bortasq (2nd Anniversary freebie) is 1 Trico, 3 Beams fore and aft. As I figure I won't be facing them often but when I do it will hurt.

Best try Roach's suggestions they seem to be a bit more balanced than my own and I believe he has tried them out. Remember Fire at Will increases single target DPS as well as AOE DPS.
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# 10
05-21-2012, 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feistyfawn View Post
Yes maybe you're right about my boff. But what should I do with boff? There is 2 boff for tactical position on my Bortasqu.
The first one can do :
- Beam Array: Overload II
- Beam Array: Fire at Will I

The second one:
- Beam Array: Overload I

My console:
Engineering:
1 x Console - Engineering - EPS Flow Regulator MkXI rare
1 x Console - Engineering - Neutronium Alloy MkXI rare
1 x Console - Engineering - Tetraburnium Hull Armor MkXI rare
1 xConsole - Engineering - Plasma Distribution Manifold

Tactical:
3 x Console - Tactical - Disruptor Induction Coil MkXII rare
Console - Universal - Disruptor Autocannon

Science:
1 x Console - Science - Shield Emitter Amplifier MkXII rare
1 x Console - Universal - HoH'SuS Bird-of-Prey

Full disruptor MxXI very rare or MkXII very rare
Front:
1 DBB Mk XII very rare
2 x beam array MkXI very rare
1 quantum torpedo MkXI very rare

Back:
1 turret Mk XII
2 x beam array MkXI very rare
1 quantum torpedo MkXI very rare
You could try the Ragnorak variant idea.

EPTW1 EPTS2 DEM2 A2SIF3
TT1 BO2
BO1
EPTW1 EPTS2 DEM2
TSS1 HE2

Rotate EPTW1 and EPTS on a keybind with BO1, BO2, ApB1,DEM2 (X2) and A2Sif3.

The EPTW1 will help offset the BO drain.
Or you could do BFaw1, Bfaw2 and TT1 instead and not worry about the drain as much. You could even swap EPTW for EPTA and get more mileage out of your Aux based heals.

The point being is that you can make a DPS baot out of a Bortie but you will never make a DPS boat to rival and escort out of a Bortie.
At worst you will be support damage and light healing, at best support damage and moderate to heavy healing.

As well DKnight1000 is right the turn rate of a Bortie is so low that any cannon past Single is almost point less. Turrets are fun but do not due the damage output needed.
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