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# 1 KA elite space
05-22-2012, 06:13 PM
is it me or has there just been a flock of newbs that do not get probes


I have done three in a row all failed

please change requirement on elite



I am getting tired of all the ra ships flooding elite

would it be frustrating for you if you had bad equiped players making the mission a lot harder than what it is

this why we need a guid on this mission so idiots can learn to get probes


I am refusing to do it I will not be forced to do it becauces none else wants to

no we are back to where we were a few months ago
i am getting tired of these idiots
get the probes people then hit gens not hard you guys make it harder that it needs to be
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# 2
05-22-2012, 08:01 PM
As long as there are no entry requirements for elites, everyone will continue to flock to them because they want the better mark XII gear.

Some people wont even bother doing the normals and start on elite with badly equipped ships and no tactics since they don't know what to do.

One reason for this problem is the lack of in game info. The other is the speed at which people can level up.

They made the game free to play but didn't bother adjusting or modifying how the game plays out, and now we have an influx of casual players who don't care.

New players are learning "the hard way" and causing grief to everyone else.
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# 3
05-22-2012, 08:29 PM
I just ran KA ground elite with new alt and got through teamwork is key
even with not fully equiped 12 you can get optional

we missed by 30 seconds same thing with space need to work as a group when you don't work as a team you fail


tip get repulse it moves probes back


please set your ship up properly add doff give you buffs like quick recharges extra gravity well
or fighters
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# 4
05-22-2012, 08:34 PM
I know that is what needs to change meanwhile we have to suffer for a 3 hour khitomer space elite which should take 20 min


normaly i do normal i am testing my theory on the optionalon what gives tech

some of these guys are brutal
timer is broken 98 seconds
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# 5
05-29-2012, 09:40 AM
i run my assault cruiser on elite due to it being one of my favorite ships and i can take care of the probes fine its just 95% of the time i do it i don,t get the optional bonus. but i,m alright with that cause i get blown up way too much in my escort any how.
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# 6
05-30-2012, 12:21 AM
All these missions need a DETAILED briefing which does not occur once the mission has started

I humbly suggest putting a new NPC into DS9
This NPC would give out detailed briefings slowly and carefully
with images , diagrams and possibly a flow chart

I respectfully advise that this Npc be REQUIRED contact for people who have never run the mission to go to first..

Finally ditch the MkXII elite only thing entirely
make MKXII directly buyable for Cpoints ( a LOT of C points) and thus cut out the grinders
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# 7
05-30-2012, 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sean2448
is it me or has there just been a flock of newbs that do not get probes


I have done three in a row all failed

please change requirement on elite



I am getting tired of all the ra ships flooding elite

would it be frustrating for you if you had bad equiped players making the mission a lot harder than what it is

this why we need a guid on this mission so idiots can learn to get probes


I am refusing to do it I will not be forced to do it becauces none else wants to

no we are back to where we were a few months ago
i am getting tired of these idiots
get the probes people then hit gens not hard you guys make it harder that it needs to be


Simple solution, team queue with a friend, take the probe sentry positions yourselves.

Kick lots of butt then start adding cadet pilots to your friends' list and teach them how to pwn. You get your own full time ESTF "newbie assault force" eventually.

Win.
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# 8
05-30-2012, 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sean2448
is it me or has there just been a flock of newbs that do not get probes


I have done three in a row all failed

please change requirement on elite



I am getting tired of all the ra ships flooding elite

would it be frustrating for you if you had bad equiped players making the mission a lot harder than what it is

this why we need a guid on this mission so idiots can learn to get probes


I am refusing to do it I will not be forced to do it becauces none else wants to

no we are back to where we were a few months ago
i am getting tired of these idiots
get the probes people then hit gens not hard you guys make it harder that it needs to be
This isn't exclusive to Khitomer.

Infected - 10% rule either ignored or not understood 90% of the time.

Cure - Cubes popped early 90% of the time, resulting to swarms of nasty Borg-Raptors etc farting plasma everywhere.

Whilst a in-game tutorial toon might help a little, I remain convinced that you will never eliminate the problem of players who don't read/don't pay attention, and it's an issue that will probably never be resolved.
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# 9
05-30-2012, 01:37 AM
Quote:
All these missions need a DETAILED briefing which does not occur once the mission has started
This! A briefing at the beginning, that cannot be closed....30 sec not more. But i'm afraid some specialist won't even bother reading it and failing as if they knew nothing else.

chatwindow should be forced open...so that players could talk to each other and make clear who goes right or left.

But again, if somebody want's to fail the mission, he would still be able to do so.
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# 10
05-30-2012, 02:17 AM
If you want the least frustration I can tepidly recommend Infected over the others since there's no condition for hard failure and the optional is (relatively) easier.

I'm positive it's not even that people are bringing bad equipment or poorly-fitted ships into Elites, it's that they flat-out don't read the optional because the game lets you fall asleep on your spacebar all the way up to ~45. You can tell people in team chat exactly what you want or need them to do, but if they weren't going to read three lines of text they're not going to listen to you and there's only so much that can be done.
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