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# 11
05-31-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by picardalpha2clearance View Post
I am so turned off on the PWE pay to play connotation, that when items hit the C-Store I do not get excited to even check it out anymore.

It is like poisoning the consumer confidence well. I already feel nickeled and dimed to death being a gold member in game.

My observation is that most of the subscriber base is starting to feel the same way, first raising the C- Store prices no thanks to Steven D'Angelo .

Then not raising the stipend by an equal percentage, and this all came right after we had assurance from Dan Stahl and Stormshade that

Prices would in fact go down and not be raised. Brandon their a lot of consumer confidence to earn back before I consider another C- Store purchase.

LTS and Gold Monthlies should have a non consumable Master Key for already paying to play. PWE does not get to double dip on those of us who

already pay to play. That is an unacceptable business practice. Paid in game unlocks (other than the

C- Store) should only be limited to F2P Subscribers only.

Thank you.
Funny you say that, I am feeling the same way, I did buy the carrier when it was release however play with it for just 5 minutes.
I did fall for the master keys when they first came out as I wanted 1 of the ships but after spending about $20 on those I have not spent anymore and will not again on the keys.

If there is something I want and it's in the C store I will spend the money but will not on any kind of "Chance" of getting something that i want.

Very over the way STO has turned out now. I was thinking last year was bad but its just got worst this year
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# 12
05-31-2012, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
That so? The Delta Flyer had already to be bought, just as the Fighters. The D'Kyr is the exception, not the rule.
Delta Flyer was CRAFTABLE pre-PWE (and F2P)
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# 13
05-31-2012, 02:03 PM
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Delta Flyer was CRAFTABLE pre-PWE (and F2P)
When the Delta Flyer first came out it was only a c-store option. It wasn’t until later they did the crafting missions.
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# 14 Why Should We Pay
05-31-2012, 02:15 PM
really why should we pay for this is we bought the Atrox Carrier , should be given to the people who bought it just like the d'kyr and its shuttle , we did pay 2k points for the carrier and then the 60k+ dilitium for fighters that are not the week pathetic of the lot , so do some back peddling and give it to us and show all of us that its not about getting every penny you can out of us.
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# 15
05-31-2012, 02:48 PM
Aside from that, here's another Fed fighter. It's being introduced to capitalize on its association with the Atrox carrier. So, where's the c-store version of a KDF fighter that is associated with a c-store carrier? Orion marauders? Something, please. Look at the imbalance:

Klingons have one shuttle (Toron), one Captain's yacht (Chariot), and one fighter (To'Duj), while the Feds get 2 non-c-store shuttles (Runabout and Type 8), 4 C-Store shuttles (Delta, Yellowstone, Type-F, and Type 10), the Captain's yacht, and 2 fighters (Stalker and Peregrine). (Yes, i'm ignoring the Vulcan shuttle that is part of a ship purchase)
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# 16
05-31-2012, 04:41 PM
Still waitin on the new escort...
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There are 2 issues I have with this fighter, both relating to dual cannons.

The first is that, in comparison to the Peregrine Fighter, it's lacking an ability.
That is Rapid Fire I.
I'm not giving my Engineer's seat up for what should be an innate Fighter Ability.


The second is the emission hardpoints of the weapons.

I installed one dual cannon, 1 turret.
But when I used the weapons, it looks like only the turret is firing.

The Peregrine fires dual cannon bolts from it's wingtips!
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# 18
05-31-2012, 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reyan01
Can't see anything in the blog that confirms that the Thoron console is transferrable.
From the first paragraph:

Quote:
This small craft is available only for Federation characters and includes a brand-new Thoron Generator Module that may be used on other small craft.
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# 19
05-31-2012, 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by picardalpha2clearance View Post
I am so turned off on the PWE pay to play connotation, that when items hit the C-Store I do not get excited to even check it out anymore.

It is like poisoning the consumer confidence well. I already feel nickeled and dimed to death being a gold member in game.

My observation is that most of the subscriber base is starting to feel the same way, first raising the C- Store prices no thanks to Steven D'Angelo .

Then not raising the stipend by an equal percentage, and this all came right after we had assurance from Dan Stahl and Stormshade that

Prices would in fact go down and not be raised. Brandon their a lot of consumer confidence to earn back

before I consider another C- Store purchase.

LTS and Gold Monthlies should have a non consumable Master Key for all ready paying to play. PWE does

not get to double dip on those of us who already pay to play. That is an unacceptable business practice.

paid in game unlocks (other than the C- Store) should only be limited to F2P Subscribers only.

Thank you.
Don't get your hopes up. The way Cryptic acts is not going to change because it has proven pre and post F2P to make them money.

Why? The community supported them with money and suggestions for most of it.

Its sad but once you set them down the dark path, forever will it dominate their destiny...

(whoops, wrong franchise, right idea )
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# 20
05-31-2012, 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reyan01
Can't see anything in the blog that confirms that the Thoron console is transferrable.
If it were not transferrable, the following line would be nonsensical:

Quote:
From the Blog (and Stalker Description in the C-Store):

All equipment that comes with the Stalker Stealth Fighter can only be used on other small craft.
Compare to a similar line in the Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit descrption:

Quote:
From the LRSV-R Description in the C-Store:

The Ablative Generator may be equipped in any console slot on the Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit.
By saying the Stalker fighter equipment "can only be used on other small craft," they are saying it is not exclusive to the Stalker, unlike the Ablative Generator for the LRSV-R which which we are told is able to slotted in any console slot on the LRSV-R, but does not indicate it can be moved to another ship, which it cannot be. Thus, that is the confirmation of which he spoke.

Of course, if you want to get picky, techncally saying it can "only be used in other small craft," could lead one to the conclusion that it cannot even use its own equipment, but I somehow suspect they want us to assume that is not the case.
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