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# 11
06-05-2012, 02:57 AM
Yes a caitian frigate would be better.
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# 12
06-05-2012, 05:22 AM
oops, double post.
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# 13
06-05-2012, 05:26 AM
the covenant cat carrier already has great variety in pets. I wish the vo'quv had Danube pets for stfs.

if you want the cat carrier to copy everything from the kdf, expect to pay a bunch of c for anything new... maybe as much as the cost of the cat carrier.
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# 14
06-05-2012, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by catliketyping
the covenant cat carrier already has great variety in pets. I wish the vo'quv had Danube pets for stfs.

if you want the cat carrier to copy everything from the kdf, expect to pay a bunch of c for anything new... maybe as much as the cost of the cat carrier.
Its not copying stuff from the KDF, its asking to be put on the same level.

You don't need run abouts you have orion interceptors which are in the same general usage. They disable weapons/engines, are launched in thress, and the advanced version has chrons. This means they are great for people wanting to stop a sphere or prob in place just like the runabouts do.

Whats being asked for is a federation frigate. Its not asking for a "federation bop" or a "federation firjai". We are talking about adapting a ship to fit a void the Atrox has, which is that it lacks a frigate (which is a pet type unique to "big" carriers on the kdf, while there FDC's only get fighters and such). Seeing as the Atrox is a "big" carrier and "big" carriers get frigates, wheres the Atroxs frigate?
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# 15
06-05-2012, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by shelev
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Whats being asked for is a federation frigate. Its not asking for a "federation bop" or a "federation firjai". We are talking about adapting a ship to fit a void the Atrox has, which is that it lacks a frigate (which is a pet type unique to "big" carriers on the kdf, while there FDC's only get fighters and such). Seeing as the Atrox is a "big" carrier and "big" carriers get frigates, wheres the Atroxs frigate?
A miranda-launching carrier would probably have to be a diffrent ship than the Atrox class, though. Something more along the lines of a standard UFP Starfleet ship.

Maybe even a battle carrier like the Kar'fI that comes with Mirandas?
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# 16
06-05-2012, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo
A miranda-launching carrier would probably have to be a diffrent ship than the Atrox class, though. Something more along the lines of a standard UFP Starfleet ship.

Maybe even a battle carrier like the Kar'fI that comes with Mirandas?
A miranda is just an example, it could easily be a defiant, saber, nova, oberth, or anything.

It could be an entirely new "catian frigate" specifically for the Atrox, mostly ideas like the miranda and such are thrown around because the models already exist.
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# 17
06-05-2012, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by shelev
Its not copying stuff from the KDF, its asking to be put on the same level.

You don't need run abouts you have orion interceptors which are in the same general usage. They disable weapons/engines, are launched in thress, and the advanced version has chrons. This means they are great for people wanting to stop a sphere or prob in place just like the runabouts do.

Whats being asked for is a federation frigate. Its not asking for a "federation bop" or a "federation firjai". We are talking about adapting a ship to fit a void the Atrox has, which is that it lacks a frigate (which is a pet type unique to "big" carriers on the kdf, while there FDC's only get fighters and such). Seeing as the Atrox is a "big" carrier and "big" carriers get frigates, wheres the Atroxs frigate?
Put on the same Level, so you want over half your content removed from the game? Significantly less ship choices and parts to make them out of?

For Example
Klingons get 2 choices for Shuttles. The Toron & the Tu'Doj. Fed gets how many? Danube, Peregrine, Delta, Yellowstone, & the new Stalker.

Yeah I left out a few. The Type 8 is a joke, the Type F and Chaffe are from a pack, the Vulcan comes with a ship Now if we Consider the Toron to equal the Danube and the two Fighters to cancel each other out. You still got three and each has an advantage. Fairness does not exist in this game. I'd settle for just being able to claim the Yellowstone Engines or a MK 2 Toron with 2 BOFF slots. As for the Stalker, there is no way I'd fly anything else in a shuttle PVP match.

Realistically and Logically an after the fact Launched Frigate will not be added to the Caitian Carrier. And if there was it would need to be a Caitian design.

And if you want a Carrier that has Frigates nothing is stopping you from going to the KDF side.
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# 18
06-05-2012, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DKnight1000
Put on the same Level, so you want over half your content removed from the game? Significantly less ship choices and parts to make them out of?

For Example
Klingons get 2 choices for Shuttles. The Toron & the Tu'Doj. Fed gets how many? Danube, Peregrine, Delta, Yellowstone, & the new Stalker.

Yeah I left out a few. The Type 8 is a joke, the Type F and Chaffe are from a pack, the Vulcan comes with a ship Now if we Consider the Toron to equal the Danube and the two Fighters to cancel each other out. You still got three and each has an advantage. Fairness does not exist in this game. I'd settle for just being able to claim the Yellowstone Engines or a MK 2 Toron with 2 BOFF slots. As for the Stalker, there is no way I'd fly anything else in a shuttle PVP match.

Realistically and Logically an after the fact Launched Frigate will not be added to the Caitian Carrier. And if there was it would need to be a Caitian design.

And if you want a Carrier that has Frigates nothing is stopping you from going to the KDF side.
We are not talking about missions, player piloted shuttles, or random crap the KDF or FEDs might have.

We are talking about a even playing field for ships of the same exact class.
Sure variances are good, but at the same time lacking an entire TYPE of ship is different than "having less".
Klinks have more "fighters" (3 per launch) craft.
Feds have more "shuttles" (2 per launch) craft.
Feds don't have "frigates" (1 per launch) craft.

Both pre-existing carriers ingame have frigates, they are unique to carriers. FDC's CANNOT launch frigates, frigates are the "bigger" ships that only true carriers can launch. The Atrox doesn't have a frigate, yet is supposed to compete with ships that do.

This is not "oh he has more missions than me" or "oh his ships are better than mine"... Its "we don't even have this..."

BTW still waiting for fed flight deck doffs.
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# 19
06-05-2012, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by silence1311
All the ships are good in the federation category all except one. The feds dont have a 'one launch' ship. The Klingon's have one (Bird of Prey). Why cant the feds. To start with these ships have high hull raitngs making them hard to destroy and they have good abilities and good firepower. The Federation could have a sort of Light Cruiser.
yeah... no.

Lets keep the apples to oranges for that.
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# 20
06-05-2012, 10:22 AM
Restrict the Danube runabouts to 1 per launch. That will solve two problems...
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