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Lt. Commander
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# 21
06-13-2012, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NeilCell View Post
Hull is good. No ship has five fore weapons. It should either have 4 front and 3 aft, or 4 front with 2 in back (I prefer seven weapon slots, myself). Crew is too much for such a small ship. For compairison, the Soveerigin has 800 crew. The largest escort, the Promethius only has 200. The Tier 5 Defiant has the same crew as teh Tier 4 does-50. So crew should stay at 50 in exchnage for extra hull or turnning rate. Consols and device slots are fine. I'm still pondering the BOFF slots.
Eep!! I forgot to fix the crew, sorry.
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# 22
06-13-2012, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TovalMorgan
see above in red
Easy killer it's just a concept. That's why I posted it here for constructive crit's. Your just flaming just to flame because you think you can do better. If you can let's see.

I will work on my stats later on. I heard a rumor of tier 6 coming?
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# 23
06-14-2012, 03:48 AM
Everyone keeps thinking Tier 6 is coming, but look at it realistically you just shelled out 2000 C points or $25 for a Tier 5 ship only to find out the freebies coming out in a month will kick its arse. The forums would overflow with rage.

Edit:
Many people are trying to give constructive criticism to you, ignore the people who do the "LOL YEA RIGHT" garbage, their just posting for the sake of posting.
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# 24
06-14-2012, 04:43 AM
Yeah I know, brother. I did get my Jem Ha'Dar today though! Hull: 33,000.
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# 25
06-15-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitzy
Eep!! I forgot to fix the crew, sorry.
No worries! Just pointing out where the ship is well balanced, and pointing out discontinuites. If the ship was any other larger escort, I would have said your layout was pretty good.
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# 26
06-15-2012, 11:37 AM
I agree the stats are off, but I sure do like the ship design.

I could see the "Ring of Fire" being a variation on FAW with a 360 degree arc. It would look way cooler than the regular FAW, if I'm understanding the concept correctly. Like strobed fire or a sequential fire on all four sides?
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# 27
06-15-2012, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
I could see the "Ring of Fire" being a variation on FAW with a 360 degree arc. It would look way cooler than the regular FAW, if I'm understanding the concept correctly. Like strobed fire or a sequential fire on all four sides?
Yes, finally, exactly what I meant!

Oh I updated the stats too. Is this acceptable to the fleet?
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# 28
06-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Sorry Guys. (Universal (insert console here), And what freebee Ship? Really isn't that a bit much? the design is Too overpowered. Now yes a ship with lotts of Uni-Slots, would be nice for people who switch the bridge officers every now and again. I myself Fired Everyone, only to discover, the Human ability of Leadership, Doesnot work. What a funny thing. to have the possibility of 90% repare only to find out its broken. Hey and those Officers had followed me from the Beginning. I feel So alone.
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# 29
06-15-2012, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spektre12
Here is my rough draft, 3D model to follow.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4...srefit0001.png


FORMIDABLE CLASS, ESCORT

U.S.S.FIRESCOUT, NCC-99371

  • Crew: 30.
  • Hull: 31,000.
  • Impulse Modifier: 0.20
  • Weapons Fore: 5.
  • Weapons Aft: 2.
  • Base Turn Rate: 22 D/sec
  • Tactical Consoles: 5.
  • Engineering Consoles: 3.
  • Science Consoles: 3.
  • Console Stations Tactical: 3: 1 CAP, 1 LCDR, 1 LT.
  • Engineering Consoles: 2: 1 CAP, 1 LT.
  • Science Consoles: 2: 1 CAP, 1 LT.
  • Special Consoles: Multi-Vector Phaser Countermeasure "Ring of Fire". 4 small 90 DEG Quadrant single
    cannons firing simultaneously for 10 seconds. Targets Projectiles and fighters.
  • Special Abilities: +20 to all weapons.
Quote:
Originally Posted by spektre12
Yes, finally, exactly what I meant!

Oh I updated the stats too. Is this acceptable to the fleet?
I'm not seeing the edits your talking about? 50 crew would have been fine.

31k hull is still more than any Federation Escort. 30k is the standard and realistically this should have less.

5 Fore weapons is just too powerful compared to other escorts, 4 Fore weapons is the limit here.

22 Turn rate is better than the BoP, and that has 24k hull and 4 fore 2 aft weaponry. It does have Battle Cloak, and some of it's Hull points are missing because of it.

You still have 11 Consoles, the standard is 9. 5 Tactical Consoles is considered OP on an Escort.

Your BOFFs are still ridiculously overpowered, for Starters you have 2 more BOFFs than any other ship. Secondly there is no Captain rank BOFFs only Commanders. Thirdly no ship has 3 Commanders it's a limit of 1 per a ship. Normal Tier 5 ships have, 1 Commander, 1 Lt.Com, 2 Lt & 1 Ens.

+20 is still to much power to a single system. Choose either +15 to 1, +10 to 2 or +5 to all.

Are you even trying to bring it down to something that could exist? Or is this just your fantasy I win ship?
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# 30
06-15-2012, 11:58 PM
I think combining what Blitzy and I had would probably work the best for stats. Not sure what you'd give it for a class title. Cutlass, perhaps?

Hull: 26000
Front: 5
Rear: 1
Crew: 30

Bridge Officer (12 total)
Engineer: LT
Science: LT
Tactical: LT, Com
Universal: LT

Device Slots: 1

Consoles (9 total)

Engineer 3
Science 3
Tactical 3

Turn Rate: 16
Shield Modifier: 0.90
Impulse Modifier: 0.23
Inertia rating: 25
Power Bonus: +15 Weapons

Its got plenty of penalties to it with this design to make up for its very good positives. Low crew, low hull, loss of 1weapon (aft), loss of 1 tactical console, runs at a lower shield modifier than other ships.

I think dropping the special console would be a good idea. This ship is pretty darn nice without it. Making it even nicer would be kinda over-killing it.

Also could probably copy this and paste it over to the KDF for their new BoP.
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