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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 141
# 11
08-12-2012, 12:44 PM
hmmm i really would like to see some further tholian additions, as a long term fan of star trek in general, they only popped up on the odd occasion and it would be rather cool to see them introduced as maybe another victim of the iconians or maybe it a completely different story line but maybe the whole chain of events shaped by the iconians or just different in general as.


but i think that can wait, i would much prefer to see more on the undine because well the final mission was just a complete cliff hanger.

but i would also like to see more on the dividians, yeah we had a couple of missions against them but nothing to interesting id like to see more game play against them but in there "realm" so to speak? STF may develop some kind of ev suit against triolic waves?

lol doing this all off the top of my head and failing miserably i think lol
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 12
08-12-2012, 08:48 PM
In terms of storyline, here's where I think we might be going.

Obviously, the big reveal at the end of the last available story mission is going to be a big part of things. I predict that the Iconians will start showing up in a big way, and at some point the player is going to have to persuade the Undine that the Alpha Quadrant powers are not their true enemy. Whether or not the Undine believe you is up to the devs I guess.

In terms of the Fed/Klingon war, I think it's about time we had a fitting finale to that story. From reading the Path to 2409 lore pieces, I'm pretty sure that the Klingons have actually been right all the time. I predict that at some point, some or even all of the high ranking Federation officials (the President and members of the Federation Council) will be revealed to be Undine infiltrators. The player will discover their conspiracy (a la Picard and the mind controlling insect things in TNG), causing a lot of the story elements to fall into place. Of course the Federation starts condemning their Klingon allies when the Klingons start actively hunting Undine - with Undine in power in the Federation, they're going to do their best to pit the two major powers in the quadrant against each other, and they don't want to risk the Klingons exposing the extent of their infiltration. It's also possible that the Klingon Chancellor has been replaced, and the two groups of infiltrators are keeping the war going artificially to weaken the two powers further.

Once the plot is exposed, I predict the player, perhaps with some Starfleet assistance, will team up with Jarod and a KDF task force to arrest the Undine. This way, the war can end amicably for both sides - the Federation has defended its borders and has not suffered a major military defeat or had to surrender. The Klingon Empire has achieved its goals of saving the Alpha Quadrant from the Undine, allowing them to portray the subsequent peace (and possible re-instatement of the Khitomer Accords) as a glorious victory for the Empire. At this point, the Federation and Klingons are free to deal with the growing threat of the Iconians (and to find out exactly which side Sela is on).

Ending the war shouldn't make things too awkward in the game world. Even now, Federation and Klingon players pass each other peacefully in space and on starbases all the time. And new players would still have to play through the entire storyline before the war ends. In terms of PvP, or the Deep Space encounters, once the war is over these can be renamed or reclassified either as wargames, or fighting rogue elements who refuse to accept the war is over (like that Captain in TNG who takes his Nebula class into Cardassian space and starts blowing up random ships).

Anyway, that's my two slips of latinum on the subject.

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Captain
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# 13
08-12-2012, 10:01 PM
Since this is an MMO and we want it to have an open ended future, we don't really want to "win" the game.
The groundwork has certainly been laid out that although the Undine had been instigating hostilities between all factions they were provoked by agents under the control of the Iconians, so I would see many missions to root out Undine infiltration on all sides and a final confrontation with the Undine not so much as a battle of conquest but a battle to make them face the truth, an entire season could be devoted to that alone.
Iconains realizing their Undine plots have failed, may show themselves in force, creating a threat to the galaxy greater than the Borg ever were.
A long struggle working to restore peaceful relations then combining forces to combat the Iconians themselves.

Sela was hauled away by Iconians so she may return at some future point to spur the Romulans into further strife at the Iconians behest.
Klingons may decide that in spite of all, they prefer glorious conquest to peaceful relations,
or may factionalize, those wanting battle at war with those seeking peace.
There can never be peace with the Borg so long as they continue their motus operandi of assimilation.
The Tholians will continue their inscrutable behavior of hopping between dimensions to annex worlds for whatever reasons.
Cardasia may decide that the True Way may have been right, destabilizing that region.
The Dominion may return, not necessarily as an enemy.
Section 31 may decide that it can do a better job of governing the Federation than it elected officials, sowing the seeds of dissent within the heart of the Federation.

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Rihannsu
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# 14
08-13-2012, 05:22 PM
I'd go with either the Iconian manipulation of the Romulans, or the Dominion. I'd love to go to the Gamma Quadrant. OOOh! maybe connect the Iconian story with the Dominion somehow? Such as the Iconians trying to mess with the Founders? Or.... maybe if the Iconians are (part of) why the Founders distrust humanoids(solids)?
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Career Officer
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# 15
08-30-2012, 01:02 AM
1. Wrap up the Klingon War.

2. To keep PVP alive, have it become another Klingon civil war. Since a Klingon content already involves Klingon vs Klingon this wouldn't be a stretch. The empire signs peace treaty with the federation, and a splinter group takes up arms.

3. Next big bad? hmmm I don't know. Compared to the Borg most of the badguys Trek has introduced have fallen a bit flat.

- The Hirogen are just lame to me, plus the whole idea of Voyager having to work magic to get back in under 75 years and now a couple of decades later we have an entire Hirogen influx into the alpha quadrant? Meh.

- The Udine, they had a great intro in Voyager with "The Weak Shall Perish" line but after Scorpion they turned into just another random Delta Quadrant speedbump.

- JJ's movie really screwed up the Romulans. I mean we already had the Klingons kinda sorta losing their home world, but not really, in ST:VI. Couldn't he have come up with a better plot device than blowing up somebody else's? Plus the shoulder pads have just gotten out of hand with them. Maybe we should have attack of the Romulan tailors in S:7.

- The Cardassians have been nutted, and their fashion sense wasn't any improvement on the Romulans anyway.

- I don't like spiders, so I would personally request that the Tholians be given a pass.

- Breen? Eh, I really don't want to shoot Princess Leia.

- Iconians, the dark puppet masters of the universe? Don't we already have that with the Founders?

- Mirror Universe, possibly. But the whole transdimensional storyline just seems more of a novelty to put girls in skimpy outfits, which is all good to me, but I'm afraid of the defection rate among male Starfleet officers given a chance to 'work under' Empress Hoshi.

- I guess that leaves the Dominion. I never liked how DS9 ended with "we win because the gods like us better" victory. How about the Founders figure out finally how to snuff the Prophets, get through the wormhole and blow the crap out a those liberal commie pinkos on Bajor (YAY! hehehehe.). Then lay waste to the Cardassians and every Romulan tailor they find. Thus forcing everyone else in the Alpha quadrant to get over themselves, wear something not so annoying and team up for a nice mega smackdown.

Then again we could just have some more lockbox missions.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 16
09-05-2012, 11:11 AM
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Personally I want the KDF/Fed war to wrap up...

We've been "fighting" a low intensity war for the past 2 years, and we aren't really getting anywhere. Might as well let it come to an end, and it still dosen't prevent new chars from initially experiencing the war...

Secondly I would like more focus on the Iconians... I want to know how a race that was originally thought to be "the bad guys", then prooven to be the good guys (in TNG) suddenly ended up being the real bad guys.
Did we watch the same episode? In that episode an Iconian probe destroyed the USS Yamato with all hands and damn nearly destroyed her sister ship, the Enterprise. They were never proven to be the good guys at all. Picard merely speculated that the historical record appeared to be written by the victors, as the term 'demons of air and darkness' suggest whoever was writing the record had a bone to pick with the Iconians.
Commander
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# 17
09-05-2012, 12:01 PM
more borg, more 8472, hirogen, kazon and other stuff that has come too short (you saw borg quite often but only in the same missions over and over again but there are only like what, 5 missions?)
Captain
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# 18
09-05-2012, 01:14 PM
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Tholians and Iconians, definitely.

Ending the Klingon war...I don't know; pretty much all PvP right now involves the war, though I know they're revamping it sometime in the future. I'm neutral on that.

I almost wouldn't mind a short arc involving the mirror universe...your character's counterpart in particular. Maybe he/she's taken control of the Empire after James O'Brien's death, or something like that.

They also should show us how things are going in the Romulan Empire after Sela's disappearance. Pretty chaotic, I presume.

I'm sure there are still stories to be told of the True Way and the Breen.

And why not expand on some of those random aliens from Exploration Clusters? (Se'Rellian, Vito'D, Starlian, etc)
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Ensign
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# 19
09-12-2012, 02:48 AM
Truthfully, I'm not as concerned as to what they implement, but how they implement it. Right now I'm at the Cardassian missions and the K/R missions were not that great. I understand that STO is set around a war, but Star Trek is not all about war, there needs to be variety between missions... every mission should not begin and end with a fight. It's to predictable, I know now when something will happen before it even happens based on past missions. There were only 1 or 2 that were interesting really during those missions.

Now, I'm not sure how the later missions are, because I know they were added later on, but I hope there better than what I have already played.... because so for they have been mostly go there, fight enemy, beam to planet, scan this, defeat enemy again and repeat.

Please tell me it gets better?

Outside of the missions, the game has been pretty good... since I last played it which was around release.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 77
# 20
09-12-2012, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by diotw View Post
In terms of storyline, here's where I think we might be going.

Obviously, the big reveal at the end of the last available story mission is going to be a big part of things. I predict that the Iconians will start showing up in a big way, and at some point the player is going to have to persuade the Undine that the Alpha Quadrant powers are not their true enemy. Whether or not the Undine believe you is up to the devs I guess.

In terms of the Fed/Klingon war, I think it's about time we had a fitting finale to that story. From reading the Path to 2409 lore pieces, I'm pretty sure that the Klingons have actually been right all the time. I predict that at some point, some or even all of the high ranking Federation officials (the President and members of the Federation Council) will be revealed to be Undine infiltrators. The player will discover their conspiracy (a la Picard and the mind controlling insect things in TNG), causing a lot of the story elements to fall into place. Of course the Federation starts condemning their Klingon allies when the Klingons start actively hunting Undine - with Undine in power in the Federation, they're going to do their best to pit the two major powers in the quadrant against each other, and they don't want to risk the Klingons exposing the extent of their infiltration. It's also possible that the Klingon Chancellor has been replaced, and the two groups of infiltrators are keeping the war going artificially to weaken the two powers further.

Once the plot is exposed, I predict the player, perhaps with some Starfleet assistance, will team up with Jarod and a KDF task force to arrest the Undine. This way, the war can end amicably for both sides - the Federation has defended its borders and has not suffered a major military defeat or had to surrender. The Klingon Empire has achieved its goals of saving the Alpha Quadrant from the Undine, allowing them to portray the subsequent peace (and possible re-instatement of the Khitomer Accords) as a glorious victory for the Empire. At this point, the Federation and Klingons are free to deal with the growing threat of the Iconians (and to find out exactly which side Sela is on).

Ending the war shouldn't make things too awkward in the game world. Even now, Federation and Klingon players pass each other peacefully in space and on starbases all the time. And new players would still have to play through the entire storyline before the war ends. In terms of PvP, or the Deep Space encounters, once the war is over these can be renamed or reclassified either as wargames, or fighting rogue elements who refuse to accept the war is over (like that Captain in TNG who takes his Nebula class into Cardassian space and starts blowing up random ships).

Anyway, that's my two slips of latinum on the subject.
This. This is the best idea I've seen yet on furthering the STO storyline. Devs, please use this idea.
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