Ensign
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# 1 A Big Rip Off
06-21-2012, 05:27 AM
Why is it when i tried to login i couldnt unless i linked my cryp account to pw. now when i purchessd 2000 cpoints i had to buy zen the exchange it to cp and pay a 5.00 transfer fee so instead of receiving 2000 cp i only received 1600. i then had to buy more zen and pay again the exchange rate in order to get the 2000 total cp to buy my new ship. in the us i believe there are laws againts this type of purchases. i think members who want to voluntary join pw is fine but no one should be forced the make the change.
Admiral Franklin.
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# 2
06-21-2012, 05:32 AM
please learn math/search function before posting invalid information. this has been discussed many many times, even within the past 24 hours.

100 cpoints formerly cost $1.25 directly from cryptic mechanism ($25 = 2000 cpoints)

100 zen costs $1 ($20 = 2000 zen)
100 zen = 80 cpoints
80 cpoints = $1
100 cpoints = $1.25 ($25 = 2000 cpoints - oh look exactly the same price)




Also you signed the TOS when joining the game, that TOS is now owned by PWE. if you don't like it you don't have to stay.

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Ensign
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# 3 1600 is not 2000
06-21-2012, 05:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eiledon View Post
please learn math/search function before posting invalid information. this has been discussed many many times, even within the past 24 hours.

100 cpoints formerly cost $1.25 directly from cryptic mechanism ($25 = 2000 cpoints)

100 zen costs $1 ($20 = 2000 zen)
100 zen = 80 cpoints
80 cpoints = $1
100 cpoints = $1.25 ($25 = 2000 cpoints - oh look exactly the same price)




Also you signed the TOS when joining the game, that TOS is now owned by PWE. if you don't like it you don't have to stay.
u forgot the exchange rate u have to pay. i wanted to buy a ship that cost 2000 cp. first had to buy 2000 zen to purchase that 2000 cpoint which is fine but i then had to transfer my 2000 zen to cp and pay 5.00 exchange rate. they took that out of my 2000 zen so i only received 1600 cp. now how is that fare or right. if crypt is own buy pw then there should be no exchange rate.
Rihannsu
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# 4
06-21-2012, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mall405a View Post
u forgot the exchange rate u have to pay. i wanted to buy a ship that cost 2000 cp. first had to buy 2000 zen to purchase that 2000 cpoint which is fine but i then had to transfer my 2000 zen to cp and pay 5.00 exchange rate. they took that out of my 2000 zen so i only received 1600 cp. now how is that fare or right. if crypt is own buy pw then there should be no exchange rate.
There is no fee. It comes out exactly the same. 2000 zen = 1600 CP. They don't take anything out. It is just a silly extra step when trying to give them your well-earned cash.

Here's a link to the exchange information, although eiledon's explanation was spot-on. Before if you wanted to buy the Odyssey pack it would cost 4,000 CP = $50. 4,000 CP = 5,000 Zen = $50.

https://billing.perfectworld.com/exchange

Last edited by captainotaku; 06-21-2012 at 06:04 AM.
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# 5
06-21-2012, 06:06 AM
I guess my explanation was just a tad too complicated. oh well. i tried. next.

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Rihannsu
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# 6
06-21-2012, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by eiledon View Post
I guess my explanation was just a tad too complicated. oh well. i tried. next.
I just get the feeling they didn't read your explanation too closely. You were incredibly thorough! But the currency system that has been set up is kind of dumb and it can be confusing at first glance. I have a feeling everything will be converted to Zen soon. This has the same feel as the transition over to the Euro. :biggrin:
Commander
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# 7
06-21-2012, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by captainotaku View Post
I have a feeling everything will be converted to Zen soon.
Ya, looking forward to the big rants about Ships costing 2.500 Zen then ... what a big ripoff! :biggrin:
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# 8
06-21-2012, 09:55 AM
a single item for sale over on PWI in game store was 75 dollars when it was released. When the legendary pets were introduced it pretty much worked out way over 200 dollars to collect the items to hatch the pet. There will always be someone willing and able to pay a price. Eventually the prices do reduce (at least most of them have on PWI via their constant sales - unfortunately this has had the effect that ingame currency is worth a pittance now) If pwe can be a bit more consistent with their sales here on STO i imagine people would complain less about the pricing - e.g if one ship a month was at 75% of its original price I wonder how many more ships they would sell.

The one thing I will say about PWE games, they do let you buy cash shop items by converting in game currency. so wether you want to work in game or in life you can get the items you want. the choice is alway yours. but if you must have the shiny you have to pay one way or another

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Rihannsu
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# 9
06-21-2012, 10:55 AM
Yeah, their ship sales have been fewer and fewer as of late, which is unfortunate. But hopefully the prices will go down eventually as you suggest, eiledon.
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# 10
06-22-2012, 02:03 PM
I'd imagine that ship sales drop off because as account unlocks, one purchase is all you need. Then since the main influx of players tapers off, fewer need to buy them.

It'd be best to just convert to Zen and avoid all this confusion anyway. Not that the word Zen seems appropriate for Trek, but neither does Cryptic Points.

("Spock to Kirk: Captain, we've come across a wormhole that seems to be emitting a strange poorly understood quark-like particle known as Cryptic Points."

Kirk: "Spock, who names these particles? i think they must have been doing LDS at the time...")
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