Lt. Commander
Join Date: Feb 2013
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# 111
03-15-2013, 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grouchyotaku View Post
Um really ??? If you ever bothered to read the 'Terms of Service' agreement for STO...

http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms

And by continuing to play STO is taken as defacto agreement to the TOS statement...

Also, there are some differences in functional requirements between a simple HTTP connection vs. a real time MMRPG Client that you should be aware of. Which one do you think requires a higher quality connection...
Do you get paid for this drivel?

The fact that there is a ToS that says these things can go wrong without you having a recourse doesn't make fixing them your problem. Logic much? I'll go slow: It is still their problem. They are the service provider. That they can not be held legally liable for damages in no way makes fixing their issues my responsibility. Their relationship with their network services providers may be my gaming problem, but it's not my issue to resolve.

If you think today's e-commerce sites, with advanced interactive tools, shopping carts, realtime streams to financial services, multi-media, real time video chats in some cases, and real time database calls are simple http it's not me who needs an education here. Then again, you don't want to know. You are a one-trick pony and I'll be darned if I can figure out why you are in a forum where users are supposed to be helping each other...when you are not doing any such thing. At some point, what you are doing amounts to trolling, since you keep repeating the same thing over and over again and not providing any assistance to anyone regarding this problem.

Solid realtime mmo communications has been alive and well since the late 90s, with phone lines and modems. Don't hold yourself out as an expert on this unless you really want to get into it.

Last edited by hiplyrustic; 03-15-2013 at 12:39 PM.
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# 112
03-15-2013, 12:49 PM
Well, everything was going fine this morning. I was even downloading a game in the background and had no connection issues. Then everything just DROPPED in the last hour, and now I'm stuck at "Server Not Responding."

Here's a tracert I ran last night while I was plagued with lag.

1 92 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.15.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms tge7-1.snantx3600-er02.texas.rr.com [24.28.133.54]
4 18 ms 23 ms 24 ms tge0-9-0-2.snantx3000-tr02.texas.rr.com [24.175.33.172]
5 40 ms 23 ms 24 ms agg23.snantx6000-cr01.texas.rr.com [24.175.32.184]
6 28 ms 24 ms 23 ms agg2.dllatxl3-cr01.texas.rr.com [24.175.32.146]
7 26 ms 23 ms 23 ms ae-4-0.cr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.88]
8 17 ms 25 ms 18 ms 107.14.17.232
9 53 ms 65 ms 59 ms te0-7-0-15.ccr21.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.49]
10 66 ms 76 ms 53 ms te0-2-0-3.ccr21.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.93]
11 71 ms 70 ms 69 ms te0-3-0-6.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.201]
12 41 ms 43 ms 47 ms te0-1-0-2.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.25.82]
13 68 ms 66 ms 66 ms te0-3-0-1.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.254]
14 65 ms 204 ms 223 ms te3-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134]
15 70 ms 72 ms 72 ms 38.111.40.114
16 67 ms 68 ms 70 ms 208.95.185.41

te3-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134] seems to be a common culprit from what I've seen on other tracerts. I'll run another when I finish my download.
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# 113
03-15-2013, 01:07 PM
Well I found a sure-fire way to get my post count up - just post in every outage/problem threads these words: "Post your traceroute and nettest results here...blah blah".
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# 114
03-15-2013, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gfreeman98 View Post
Well I found a sure-fire way to get my post count up - just post in every outage/problem threads these words: "Post your traceroute and nettest results here...blah blah".
Or you could save time and just post the blah blah part.
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# 115
03-15-2013, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hiplyrustic View Post
...Then again, you don't want to know. You are a one-trick pony and I'll be darned if I can figure out why you are in a forum where users are supposed to be helping each other...when you are not doing any such thing. At some point, what you are doing amounts to trolling, since you keep repeating the same thing over and over again and not providing any assistance to anyone regarding this problem..
I wouldn't call being able to work on TCP/IP implementations at the stack level, or dealing with the issues of SSL and PKI deployment a one trick pony... If you don't want to assist Cryptic/PWE in solving your connection, thats fine. Its your decision and your connection...
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# 116
03-15-2013, 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hypl View Post
Well, everything was going fine this morning. I was even downloading a game in the background and had no connection issues. Then everything just DROPPED in the last hour, and now I'm stuck at "Server Not Responding."

Here's a tracert I ran last night while I was plagued with lag.

1 92 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.15.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms tge7-1.snantx3600-er02.texas.rr.com [24.28.133.54]
4 18 ms 23 ms 24 ms tge0-9-0-2.snantx3000-tr02.texas.rr.com [24.175.33.172]
5 40 ms 23 ms 24 ms agg23.snantx6000-cr01.texas.rr.com [24.175.32.184]
6 28 ms 24 ms 23 ms agg2.dllatxl3-cr01.texas.rr.com [24.175.32.146]
7 26 ms 23 ms 23 ms ae-4-0.cr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.88]
8 17 ms 25 ms 18 ms 107.14.17.232
9 53 ms 65 ms 59 ms te0-7-0-15.ccr21.dfw03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.49]
10 66 ms 76 ms 53 ms te0-2-0-3.ccr21.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.93]
11 71 ms 70 ms 69 ms te0-3-0-6.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.201]
12 41 ms 43 ms 47 ms te0-1-0-2.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.25.82]
13 68 ms 66 ms 66 ms te0-3-0-1.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.254]
14 65 ms 204 ms 223 ms te3-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134]
15 70 ms 72 ms 72 ms 38.111.40.114
16 67 ms 68 ms 70 ms 208.95.185.41

te3-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134] seems to be a common culprit from what I've seen on other tracerts. I'll run another when I finish my download.
Be sure to post these results in this PWE Tech Support thread, as that is the thread that PWE's network people monitor closely... http://techsupport.perfectworld.com/...ead.php?t=4181
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# 117
03-15-2013, 02:10 PM
grouchy, first of all, on the whole 200ms latency is not that bad. But you keep saying the same thing over and over to everyone, regardless of their issue. Just how many times must "PWE's network people" need to see that there's a problem with Cogent Co-Lo in Boston?
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 128
# 118
03-15-2013, 03:45 PM
same here, qo'nos, ds9, sectors, ships and chars going back and forth


1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms 89-73-14-1.dynamic.chello.pl [89.73.14.1]
3 9 ms 7 ms 6 ms 89-75-4-65.infra.chello.pl [89.75.4.65]
4 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms pl-krk01a-rd4-ae0-2183.aorta.net [84.116.253.70]
5 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms pl-waw04a-rd1-ae12-2158.aorta.net [84.116.252.225]
6 43 ms 77 ms 33 ms 84.116.137.9
7 72 ms 33 ms 33 ms de-fra01a-ri2-xe-4-1-0.aorta.net [84.116.130.146]
8 34 ms 35 ms 35 ms xe-5-1-1.fra23.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.73.105]
9 120 ms 119 ms 119 ms xe-1-2-0.bos11.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.183.13]
10 119 ms * 121 ms internap-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.77.54]
11 118 ms 123 ms 119 ms border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
12 119 ms 126 ms 124 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
13 * 118 ms 118 ms 208.95.185.41
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
# 119 Same here
03-15-2013, 04:24 PM
Bascially Ive had this issue for weeks, constant disconnects...

It seems periodic and its crippling my STO time. Now before you tell me to post the results of the tracert or the net-test there is no point both returned decent replies to my queries well within the parameters. It's odd though it seems more consistant when skype is Running.
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Posts: 483
# 120
03-15-2013, 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by k1ll5w1tch View Post
It's odd though it seems more consistant when skype is Running.
Wait, are you saying there are more disconnects when you're running Skype, or less? If the former, that's completely understandable and should be expected. If that latter, then yeah that is odd.
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