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# 11
06-29-2012, 12:31 AM
As I understood it, with both the Federation and the Klingons having become so well distracted, the Borg managed to establish themselves within reach of both the Mutara Nebula and Cestus system. What might explain a lot of things is if Vega Colony - from the tutorial - was also established in Gamma Orionis sector block. But I don't think the game tells where, exactly, Vega Colony is on the maps.

In STO, it's suggested that the Transwarp Conduits are becoming more common place for shortened travel within established territories closer to home. The Gamma Orionis conduit is the only permanent one on the maps.
I wonder if its really not the Borg presence in Beta Quadrant as much as the Transwarp Conduit that is confusing folks? A conduit doesn't necessarily have to exist to only shorten travel between galaxy quadrants (Alpha to Delta, for example).
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# 12
06-29-2012, 12:51 AM
The Mutara Nebula might be famous among Trek fans, but for all we know its a very remote location with little to now value to the Federation. They put one of their top secret research projects in the vicinity of the nebula, after all, so it was off everyone's radar.

I have no problem with the Nebula being taken over by the Borg. After all there is an invasion going on and the location is far off from the Federation core. (Nevermind that there are Borg sitting in Kerrat).

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06-29-2012, 01:04 AM
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The Mutara Nebula might be famous among Trek fans, but for all we know its a very remote location with little to now value to the Federation. They put one of their top secret research projects in the vicinity of the nebula, after all, so it was off everyone's radar.
Little value to the Federation? Are you forgetting about the MIDAS Array? And there is a good possibility the Regula Station is still being used in researching the Genesis Cave. (Even if the Genesis Project had long been abandoned.)

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I have no problem with the Nebula being taken over by the Borg. After all there is an invasion going on and the location is far off from the Federation core. (Nevermind that there are Borg sitting in Kerrat).
I ignore Ker'rat, Otha, and N'vak since there never been any storylines for them. But I doubt the Borg would have any interest in the Mutara Nebula.

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As I understood it, with both the Federation and the Klingons having become so well distracted, the Borg managed to establish themselves within reach of both the Mutara Nebula and Cestus system. What might explain a lot of things is if Vega Colony - from the tutorial - was also established in Gamma Orionis sector block. But I don't think the game tells where, exactly, Vega Colony is on the maps.

In STO, it's suggested that the Transwarp Conduits are becoming more common place for shortened travel within established territories closer to home. The Gamma Orionis conduit is the only permanent one on the maps. I wonder if its really not the Borg presence in Beta Quadrant as much as the Transwarp Conduit that is confusing folks? A conduit doesn't necessarily have to exist to only shorten travel between galaxy quadrants (Alpha to Delta, for example).
Vega Colony isn't in Gamma Orionis, Vega is located 25 Light Years Northwest of Earth, in the Alpha Quadrant. Unless "Vega Colony" isn't in the Vega System.
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# 14
06-29-2012, 01:21 AM
mutara is also a class of nebula. voyager encountered one in the delta quadrant and called a mutara class nebula. its the generic name of it like 'M class planet'.

while i think the designers meant it to be the nebula from wrath of khan it could just be a generic nebula of the same type.

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# 15
06-29-2012, 01:30 AM
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WHY IS THE INFAMOUS MUTARA NEBULA IN BORG-CONTROLLED SPACE!? The very nebula where Kirk fought against Khan in Star Trek 2.

I could understand if it was a Mutara-class nebula, which have been pointed out on a few occasions in the series, but not THE Mutara Nebula.

TL;DR: Is the Gamma Orionis block in the Alpha or Delta Quadrant?
This is A Mutara Nebula because THE Mutara Nebula is transformed into the Planet Genesis at the end of ST2.

Gamma Orionis is in the Delta Quadrant.
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06-29-2012, 01:36 AM
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Vega Colony isn't in Gamma Orionis, Vega is located 25 Light Years Northwest of Earth, in the Alpha Quadrant. Unless "Vega Colony" isn't in the Vega System.

I concur.
I finally found it in my copy of the Star Trek Maps book. Assuming Vega Colony is on Vega IX as other sources suggest, it would be in a sector west of Teneebia Sector (Memory Alpha).

So are their any STF mission details which elaborate on why the Borg simply didn't continue to gravitate nearer Vega instead of, say, the much further away Mutara Nebula and Cestus region?
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# 17
06-29-2012, 07:10 AM
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This is A Mutara Nebula because THE Mutara Nebula is transformed into the Planet Genesis at the end of ST2.

Gamma Orionis is in the Delta Quadrant.
Gamma Orionis (Bellatrix) is in the Beta Quadrant, generally "south" of Klingon Space, next to the Gorn Hegemony. As mentioned in this thread already, the STO team used the Star Charts book for the overall sector layout for the game: Star Charts 1 & Star Charts 2.
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06-29-2012, 07:22 AM
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# 19
06-29-2012, 10:49 AM
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I concur. I finally found it in my copy of the Star Trek Maps book. Assuming Vega Colony is on Vega IX as other sources suggest, it would be in a sector west of Teneebia Sector (Memory Alpha).

So are their any STF mission details which elaborate on why the Borg simply didn't continue to gravitate nearer Vega instead of, say, the much further away Mutara Nebula and Cestus region?
None whatsoever, even with the original STFs. The Borg suddenly were there at Vega.

Heck, I'm still figuring out how the Borg even managed to construct a base there in the heart of Federation Territory, years before their advancement into Gamma Orionis.

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This is A Mutara Nebula because THE Mutara Nebula is transformed into the Planet Genesis at the end of ST2.

Gamma Orionis is in the Delta Quadrant.
I seriously doubt that the Mutara Nebula condensed light years worth of material into a new star and planet within a few minutes. At best only a portion of the nebula was turned into the Genesis system.

And Gamma Orionis, definitely in the Beta Quadrant, "south" of Earth.

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mutara is also a class of nebula. voyager encountered one in the delta quadrant and called a mutara class nebula. its the generic name of it like 'M class planet'.

while i think the designers meant it to be the nebula from wrath of khan it could just be a generic nebula of the same type.
It's a class of Nebula, but care to point out another Mutara-class Nebula in or near Federation space that the MIDAS array could be located?
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# 20
07-07-2012, 09:31 PM
Wow. I guess the developers really did do their research.


I just finished watching Unimatrix Zero from Voyager. In it, Seven's friend mentions that he's on a borg sphere on the border of fluidic space, on the other side of the galaxy. At the end of the episode, Seven confirms that he's on the edge of the Beta quadrant.

Well, that would explain why the Undine can be found off of Gamma Orionis, and that the Borg were over there well a lot longer than the game leads us to believe.
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