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# 11
06-30-2012, 06:24 AM
all are good except the fleet/retrofit nova. fleet nova need better shields and one more console. compare the fleet saber to the fleet nova and u'll see what i mean. there both from the same tier.

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# 12
06-30-2012, 06:48 AM
The Fleet Assault Cruiser is the only fleet ship to have the 'Refit' suffix.
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# 13
06-30-2012, 09:38 AM
Just an FYI, I listened to the Priority One Ship Yard Supplement podcast and from what they said this is a very early build of the Fleet Ships and they are already a few ahead. They didn't mention if the Akira Retrofit has the hanger bay so I guess I have to wait and see for an update ship list.
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# 14
06-30-2012, 09:51 AM
Some of the new ship type names are pretty long. It would be nice if there was a rationalisation of them to make more sense.
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# 15
06-30-2012, 10:17 AM
I have the feeling this Fleet ship/retrofit system is going to be grindy and frustrating. From the glimpse I had at it, it doesn't sound fun at all.

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# 16
06-30-2012, 11:01 AM
Man, this seems to really highlight to me the serious problem of the Tier system.

Its getting really complicated. I mean, i really expect to see at any moment

"Fleet Advanced Patrol Light Escort Cruiser Refit Retrofit"
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# 17
06-30-2012, 01:18 PM
Cryptic should revise the Tier system. Given that you got Tier 2 ships at Tier 5++ (should be Tier 6), they should give you a choice to upgrade your old ships as you level up.


Anyhow, I'm not too happy with Sovereign Refit's stats. It more of an Excelsior slot than a Sovereign. Sure I love the LT Universal and the LtC Tactical, but it really lost it's tankability. Which is part of the reason why I love the Sovereign, it has a nice balanced nature of attack, defense, and manuverability.

With the Qin Refit, there really wasn't anything offered but an extra console slot. While the Somraw is the Tanking Raptor, the Qin should have at least an Ensign Universal slot.
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# 18
06-30-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by azurianstar View Post
Cryptic should revise the Tier system. Given that you got Tier 2 ships at Tier 5++ (should be Tier 6), they should give you a choice to upgrade your old ships as you level up.


Anyhow, I'm not too happy with Sovereign Refit's stats. It more of an Excelsior slot than a Sovereign. Sure I love the LT Universal and the LtC Tactical, but it really lost it's tankability. Which is part of the reason why I love the Sovereign, it has a nice balanced nature of attack, defense, and manuverability.

With the Qin Refit, there really wasn't anything offered but an extra console slot. While the Somraw is the Tanking Raptor, the Qin should have at least an Ensign Universal slot.
In the latest Priority One interview with Al Rivera, he mentioned the difficulty of having upgradeable ships. Basically, it is far easier to come up with the same ship for every tier than add upgradability to the game since each ship has a specific model which indicates weapon slots, bridge slots, and console slots. Having upgradeable ships would either require building the engine from scratch or spend months on figuring out some type of workaround.

He also mentioned that if STO 2 came out, then it might be set this way where the warp engine will determine the tier level. A Mk II warp engine would give the same slots as a Tier 1 ship while a Mk XII warp engine would give the same slots as a Tier 5.5 ship. Would be using the same ship, but more power to run the weapons, consoles, and bridge officers' stations.
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# 19 reply
06-30-2012, 02:19 PM
tier 5 ship yard three ships have piqued my interest refit heavy escort carrier destroyer and fleet destroyer i wonder what a destroyer would be like
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# 20
06-30-2012, 02:53 PM
Kind of lame that there's no Fleet Excel, especially considering the Sovereign is a huge +1 over it. Oh well.
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