Last night I spent am 1hr in Ker'rat in my Heavy Bop - surprizingly there were way more Kdf than fed.
The KDF faction has been repeatedly sold to us as 'the PvP faction', and you're suprised there's more KDF PvPers than Starfleet PvPers? Seriously?
As for this supposedly being the reason that many Fed players hate the KDF - that bird just won't fly.
First, an anti-KDF attitude on the forum first started before the game even launched, and became the norm when we began demanding more information about the Klingon faction in November 2009. Since the KDF wasn't even in the closed beta at that point it couldn't have been caused by Feds getting killed in Ker'rat by superior KDF PvPers. Additionally, many of the Fed players that have made anti-KDF posts, by their own admission, never enter Ker'rat or PvP at all. So your theory can't possibly account for their anti-KDF attitude and posts.
In my opinion, which unlike yourself I admit could be wrong, many people have displayed an anti-KDF bias because they could. Because the moderators allowed it and the developers encouraged it with their continuous beating of the 'we have a small team and can't afford to work on the KDF' drum. As I think we've all seen over the last decade, many people derive some enjoyment from antagonizing and insulting others on the internet. The actions of the community on these forums since they first opened show that this community isn't above that either.
Also, Ker'rat is not a 'Farming Zone', it's a PvP Zone and is clearly marked as such. Anyone who deliberately enters a PvP zone and then gets angry when they get PvP'd isn't being rational. Anyone who never learns how to PvP and then can't figure out why they're no good at PvP and then comes to the forums to complain that the KDF ships are overpowered is being an idiot.
Originally Posted by levi3
What I find most interesting in the thread - that in just 5 days it has generated 3200+ views - but there has been ZERO points from cryptic saying my Title of "NO more KDF ships" was not true or a "misrepresentation"
The developers used to occasionally post in the KDF forums and every time they did they got promptly chewed up faster than a Miranda in Ker'rat. So they haven't posted in the KDF forums in almost 2 years now. But you somehow thought they'd post in your thread? Wow! I thought I was supposed to be the one with the big ego!
(although I have stated in the original post that Al did say -no more KDF ships for a long time
Once again you're misrepresenting what Al "CaptainGeko" Rivera said. He did not say 'no more KDF ships for a long time'. He said: "So they'll still keep getting them, but in general you're gonna see more come out for the Fed than you are gonna see for the Klingon."
Originally Posted by levi3
You can believe what you want - say what you want - it still won't change what we get :more c-store Fed ships well into 2013
Here's the thing levi3, I believe that you're right. I believe that, other than the fleet ships which aren't really new, that the KDF will be lucky to see a new ship in 2013, much less 2012. But that's not what I'm disagreeing with you on.
You're claiming that Al "CaptainGeko" Rivera said that the KDF wouldn't get any new ships, or any new ships for a long time. But that's very clearly not what he said.
Al did say that the KDF would continue to get ships but that the FEDs would get many more
that is they say is that - but it is very possile for the rest of this games life they get none - as Falcon agrees 2012 is a right off for any new KDF c-store ships and 2013 is not looking much better
Frankly with this game - looking beyond 2013 is just silly
I have taken the low road in this thread as many have point out - and it takes an honorable and one who has his "ego" (as many say I have a big one) in check - to admit such a thing.
On that note I will take the high road and hope there is something better to come out of the situation
I would suggest that the KDF and FED war is put to an end - it only fosters negativity from both side - and from a player perspective the KDF is losing badly - so it is in the best interests of the KDF that this fight/war/hostility is removed from the game
If that is not done - and demanded by the KDF - I see the KDF's demise as a playable faction in the not to distent future
Demand a Peace between the KDF and FED - if you truely are interested in the KDF survival in this game.
What I find funny about a point that PF brought up on the subject of Anti-KDF attitudes, only parts of the fed playerbase has expressed a hatred and dislike of the KDF and all things Klingon.
I have as yet to see a single post, comment or even a inkling of a statement saying that the Devs hate, dislike or otherwise have no love for the KDF and wish they where not a part of the STO MMO.
Only some of the fed fans seem to continuelly troll the belief that we KDF are not wanted in this game and expect us to believe it.
tRUE, there current actions say they dislike the KDF (or more so it says they desperately are trying to appease the feds and keep them emptying thier wallets for STO) but the actually phrase or phrases to the effect of hating the KDF have not been uttered as far as I know.
As I said, only certain fedfans seem to try to push that belief to us on a repeated basis. So much so that they come inot the KDF section of teh forums to do so.
As well, levi3 you seem to be wandering all ove the map at this point. First you say we KDF are not getting anymore ships, then its KDF dislike due to PvP and now you say we KDF need to beg the Devs to end the war and roll us into the fedfaction.........
You guys are junping all over the OP as if PWE's actions haven't been screaming exactly the line he's selling.
If you heard as much devspeak over the years, as many of us have, they are flat out saying that new KDF ships/content will be few and far between. Considering the current imbalance that already exists, that's bad news for the KDF and pvp in general.
Whoever is making these decisions is pretty stupid imho. If they had two plants, theyd cover one in water and miracle-gro and then wonder why the other plant is dying.
Then thier solution would be more food and water for the healthy plant....