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# 1 Needed: Science Carrier
07-01-2012, 06:19 PM
The Armitage is a nice piece of work however I would've much preferred to see a science ship come out as the carrier.


It can still happen however. The Armitage is a military focused carrier ship... why not give us a science ship that uses support craft? Its canon as well (armitage on the other hand, isnt): The Avenger class support frigate. Its an oversized Miranda hull variant that was used for exploration and science missions around the TNG era and its primary role was using its support craft to conduct research and support federation operations. In combat it was generally used as a small support craft carrier.


Hull: Use the Miranda class hull (and all other similar hull skin options).

Weapons: 2 fore, 2 aft.

Hangar Bays: 4 (its why it has 2 fore and 2 aft weapons only).
Available Support craft: Runabouts, Delta Flyers, Type-10 Shuttles and Shield Repair drones. Cannot use Peregrines.

Devices: 4

Consoles:

4 engineering
5 science
3 tactical

Boff Stations:

Lt. Cmdr Universal
Lt. Tactical
Lt. Engineering
Lt. Science
Commander Science

Hull/Shield : its a science ship hence its a shield > hull stat vessel.

Handling: This ship is as maneuverable as the deep space science vessel.

Power bonuses: +5 engines +10 aux
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# 2
07-01-2012, 06:28 PM
umm atrox anyone ?
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# 3
07-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrskyfaller View Post
The Armitage is a nice piece of work however I would've much preferred to see a science ship come out as the carrier.


It can still happen however. The Armitage is a military focused carrier ship... why not give us a science ship that uses support craft? Its canon as well (armitage on the other hand, isnt): The Avenger class support frigate. Its an oversized Miranda hull variant that was used for exploration and science missions around the TNG era and its primary role was using its support craft to conduct research and support federation operations. In combat it was generally used as a small support craft carrier.


Hull: Use the Miranda class hull (and all other similar hull skin options).

Weapons: 2 fore, 2 aft.

Hangar Bays: 4 (its why it has 2 fore and 2 aft weapons only).
Available Support craft: Runabouts, Delta Flyers, Type-10 Shuttles and Shield Repair drones. Cannot use Peregrines.

Devices: 4

Consoles:

4 engineering
5 science
3 tactical

Boff Stations:

Lt. Cmdr Universal
Lt. Tactical
Lt. Engineering
Lt. Science
Commander Science

Hull/Shield : its a science ship hence its a shield > hull stat vessel.

Handling: This ship is as maneuverable as the deep space science vessel.

Power bonuses: +5 engines +10 aux
Your forgetting all about the Caitian Atrox Carrier. Never heard of a canon "Avenger Class" either, where did you hear that?

Science Carrier: Atrox
Escort Carrier: Armitage

If anything, the game if it ever gets more carriers added, needs a Cruiser Carrier. The Atrox is heavily inclined towards the Sciences, while the Armitage is heavily inclined towards Tactical. Where's the Engineering Carrier?

Lastly, your list of BOffs, puts it at 13 abilities, whereas most (if not all), Tier 5 ships have 12 maximum. Either reduce 1 of your Lieutenants to Ensign, or increase one of them to Lt Commander, and lose the other.
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# 4
07-01-2012, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by meurik View Post
If anything, the game if it ever gets more carriers added, needs a Cruiser Carrier. The Atrox is heavily inclined towards the Sciences, while the Armitage is heavily inclined towards Tactical. Where's the Engineering Carrier?
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# 5
07-02-2012, 03:02 AM
Honestly I dont care if its an engineering carrier.

I just want a carrier that is a CARRIER not a warship with hangar bays (which all klingon carrier and existing carriers in fed side are).

I want a carrier that fights with its pets and has minimal weaponry on itself.

Science or engineering ..whatever. just give me one.


Also, the Avenger class frigate is mentioned in 'Ships of the Starfleet' illustrated book.
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# 6
07-02-2012, 03:04 AM
But you have one. It's the Atrox class.
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# 7
07-02-2012, 03:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrskyfaller View Post
I want a carrier that fights with its pets and has minimal weaponry on itself.
Due to game engine limitations (AI anyone ...), balancing issues (see PVP for reference) and the fact that "the player should play, not watch", this will never happen.
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# 8
07-02-2012, 03:28 AM
No more carriers please! It's bad enough as it is with the mind numbingly boring, rotate cooldowns, behemoths that lag the UI.

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# 9
07-02-2012, 03:31 AM
think this guy has a mental block concerning the caitian one lol
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# 10
07-02-2012, 03:43 AM
The caitian is the same crap as the Voquv: 3 guns on each side plus 2 hangars. Its BOFF layout is a bit better. Its still a ship with a lot of firepower plus 2 hangars.


And sorry, there is no 'ai limitation' for deployed craft. NPC carriers routinely deploy more than 14~ ships at a time (aka assimilated carrier can deploy 6 birds of prey, 10 or so assimilated fighters AND repair drones at once).
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