Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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(Please note that this is not grounds for a rage topic, I am simply asking a question for something that does not add up to me.)

I have been on this game since its initial launch, or there about, so I have seen all the updates and patches Cryptic have done and the changes in management. STO started strong with a high list of people all ready to immerse themselves in the love of Star Trek.

What they got however was a buggy, slightly broken disaster that after almost three years has not changed significantly to warrant how much people paid before the game went free to play.

My question is, what does Cryptic do with all the money for micro-transactions and Gold membership subscriptions because I do not for one second believe it is being put into active game development. EvE Online's price came down to ?9.99 and their expansions are large, full of content that makes you seem that you get what you pay for.

If the "Seasons" were full of additional content, I could understand but both Season 4 and 5 with the exception of the Doff System have been complete let downs and the awards for loyalty are getting somewhat lazy.

With WoW, you have to pay for expansion packs but at least there is lots and lots of new content. Cryptic consider one STF to be sufficient "End-game" content and who knows when "Enter the Hive" is coming out. My point is, Cryptic get all this money and just do not put enough back in the game to justify paying out for anything?

I understand, as an American Company, they are here to make profit but something tells me that Cryptic sit around a table and go "Oh, we'll just throw that in to keep them occupied", like the T5 Carrier Akira which was broken when it was released. It seems like they are just trying to keep everyone distracted with toys so that they do not have to write or develop any additional content with the game.

Advancing the story would be nice, little "side-activities" like "Dabo" and the "Doff System" or the upcoming Fleet Starbase system is all well and good but it ultimately does not cover the big hole in the game which is obviously not being paid for. I think Cryptic employees probably get paid too much for this and Perfect World should crack the whip and make them work.
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# 2
07-02-2012, 11:15 AM
I bet most of it goes to PWE and CBS and Paying the Dev team.
Banned
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# 3
07-02-2012, 11:16 AM
The real question is what does PW do with it.
Career Officer
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# 4
07-02-2012, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by th3gr4ndnagu5 View Post
The real question is what does PW do with it.
Cryptic failed to release any meaningful content or game updates long before Perfect World was in the picture.

At least now it's F2P instead of the F2P game masquerading as a P2P game it was for the first two years.
Career Officer
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# 5
07-02-2012, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tenkari View Post
I bet most of it goes to PWE and CBS and Paying the Dev team.
Actually one of the primary issues is Cryptic has traditionally been woefully understaffed while taking on far too much responsibility. Champs, STO, Neverwinter, etc..... all while running a minuscule crew. I've heard numbers below 20 during the transition period between Atari and PW. I can't fathom why they were granted the Neverwinter license after the STO debacle. Cryptic overhypes and under-delivers on a consistant basis.
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# 6
07-02-2012, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by macdude22 View Post
I can't fathom why they were granted the Neverwinter license after the STO debacle. Cryptic overhypes and under-delivers on a consistant basis.
depends on when Cryptic started on Neverwnter, judgiing by the fact that it is in beta now, would likely mean while they were still working with Atari, and Atari has the only License for D&D based Games currently, which means they most likely had Cryptic working on it since it was the only MMO Maker Atari had.

Most likely PWE acquired the rights to Neverwinter from Atari in the Cryptic buyout so that they could continue to Develop the game.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,503
# 7
07-02-2012, 11:39 AM
My best guess... is This.
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Career Officer
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# 8
07-02-2012, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tenkari View Post
depends on when Cryptic started on Neverwnter, judgiing by the fact that it is in beta now, would likely mean while they were still working with Atari, and Atari has the only License for D&D based Games currently, which means they most likely had Cryptic working on it since it was the only MMO Maker Atari had.

Most likely PWE acquired the rights to Neverwinter from Atari in the Cryptic buyout so that they could continue to Develop the game.
^^ This.

You also have to realize that Cryptic had to fund itself AND continued development on Neverwinter for at least half a year after Atari declared them a "Discontinued Operation" and attempted to sell the Cryptic assets to eventually PWE.

Frankly I think it will be interesting to see what happens if (ok... most likely when) Neverwinter fails. At this point it would take a true gambler's soul to drop money on an LTS for CO/STO/Neverwinter imho.
Career Officer
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# 9
07-02-2012, 01:31 PM
Hmmm interesting question...


Well while the PWE execs are lounging on Risa the Cryptic employees are laboring in the dillithium mines on Rura Penthe.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 10
07-02-2012, 01:43 PM
Pay expenses (including Dev salaries) and pay investors with what is left, if anything. What does any company do with its money?

If you do not feel the services you are being provided are worth the money, stop buying them.

If you are an LTS, stop complaining. Your money is already spend and there isn't much you can do about it now, so you may as welll enjoy the ride that remains. Even then, depending on when you became LTS, you have probably gotten good value on your investment already. If you only became an LTS recently, you had ample opportunity to see what the game is like and to make an informed decision.

How do you spend the money you make at whatever job you do?

It is a safe bet at least some of the funds go to tacos and milk.... can't be sure of the rest....
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