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# 21
07-03-2012, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
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Originally Posted by raketh1 View Post
Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit:

Commander - Tac
Lt Commander -Tac

Ensign - Tac
Lieutenant - Eng
Lieutenant - Sci



Engineering: 3
Tactical: 5
Science: 2

Weapons
Fore: 4
Aft: 3

Turn: 17
Hull: 33000
Crew: 50
Device Slots: 3
Shield Mod: 0.9
Not sure what there is to say about this.

The same defiant we know and love, with more hull, a third device slot and...5 Tac Consoles.

Love it.
Oh yeah.

I look forward to getting my Main into one of these. The U.S.S. Raging Tempest (my current Tac Escort Retro) is going to be getting some upgrades. (meaning I plan on decomissioning the current Raging Tempest and using its name on this ship once I get it)

Anyone know if this thing is going to have access to all the skins that the regular Tac Escort Retro has? I ask because I use the Sao Paulo skin, and want to keep that even on this new ship.


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Originally Posted by raketh1 View Post
Fleet Assault Cruiser Retrofit

Lt Commander - Tac
Lieutenant - Tac

Commander - Eng
Ensign - Eng
Lieutenant - Uni


Engineering: 4
Tactical: 4
Science: 2

Weapons
Fore: 4
Aft: 4

Turn: 7
Hull: 42900
Crew: 800
Device Slots: 4
Shield Mod: 1.1
Decent update, it now has a very very tac heavy BOFF layout, with a Lt Uni that will most likely end up Sci anyway.
Indeed. Although you never know--someone might use the Lt Uni as another Tac, or even another Eng.

Not sure what I'll do myself--all I know is that I have GOT to get one of my Alts into one of these things.
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Last edited by takeshi6; 07-03-2012 at 07:03 AM.
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# 22
07-03-2012, 07:09 AM
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Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit:


Lt Commander - Tac
Lieutenant - Eng
Commander - Sci
Lieutenant - Sci
Ensign - Sci

Engineering: 2
Tactical: 3
Science: 4

Weapons
Fore: 3
Aft: 3

Turn: 14
Hull: 27390
Crew: 100
Device Slots: 3
Shield Mod: 1.11
Looking forward to this one - will be sticking the Rhode Island skin on it, and intend to fit it out with two Tetryon dual-beam banks, MkXII quantum lancher forward and XI aft - with it's science abilities the little Nova/Rhode Island should be nice little shield melter!
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# 23
07-03-2012, 07:36 AM
I'm excited about the fleet assault cruiser too: I'm probably going to have a sci to put in there for tanking and a tac for moar pewpew. Can't wait for this patch..... getting bored with the doff/stf grind that we've got now. I have the achievement for each STF and all blue doffs, working on all purple.
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# 24
07-03-2012, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mehen View Post
DSSV: Just a science console means a giant yawn from me...never really understood the appeal of it, although it is great at debuffs/healing.
The DSSV is a great shield tank, this just lets you add another field generator

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I can see that my poor dreadnought keeps getting out-classed with each passing generation. Its starting to feel like Akira all over again! :p
They said they did not refit anything with built in abilities like phaser lance and transwarp. Might be a c store version with saucer separation soon.

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Originally Posted by rayezilla View Post
I'm excited about the fleet assault cruiser too: I'm probably going to have a sci to put in there for tanking and a tac for moar pewpew. Can't wait for this patch..... getting bored with the doff/stf grind that we've got now. I have the achievement for each STF and all blue doffs, working on all purple.
The Assault Cruiser will now be very tactical and hull tanking now like in the movies.
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# 25
07-03-2012, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by reyan01 View Post
Looking forward to this one - will be sticking the Rhode Island skin on it, and intend to fit it out with two Tetryon dual-beam banks, MkXII quantum lancher forward and XI aft - with it's science abilities the little Nova/Rhode Island should be nice little shield melter!
stick on the front two torpedos (photon with three blue projectile doffs, quantum with three purple doffs) and you gonna see miracles with the right skills
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Posts: 138
# 26
07-03-2012, 05:36 PM
Here is a chart of the new ships' stats and boff layouts. I have hard time distinguishing the "Fleet", "Retrofit", "Refit", "Heavy" Advanced" etc ships.

I usually associate ships with a class. And I also like to use a "slot" visual representation for boffs rather then their rank.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...leet_Ships.jpg
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Posts: 231
# 27
07-03-2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hyprodimus View Post
Here is a chart of the new ships' stats and boff layouts. I have hard time distinguishing the "Fleet", "Retrofit", "Refit", "Heavy" Advanced" etc ships.

I usually associate ships with a class. And I also like to use a "slot" visual representation for boffs rather then their rank.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...leet_Ships.jpg
May your beer remain eternally cold and frothy, good sir!

But this only reinforces my confusion with the Saber Refit...why fly it at all? A patrol escort can do everything it does, only with more hull, crew and shielding. And, it comes at tier 1, as opposed to the Saber's tier 2.
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# 28
07-03-2012, 07:52 PM
Didnt even notice that. But yeah...why would you use the Tier II-starbase Fleet Escort Retrofit when theres a better ship in literally every way one tier lower.

I double checked with the wiki too, and theres no mistake. Its not like the Saber line looks any better/more Fed than the Dervish line.
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Posts: 179
# 29
07-04-2012, 01:32 AM
Any word yet on if the Advanced Escort is getting a fleet refit/retrofit?

Personally, I'm hoping we see the MVAE BOFF layout, just with more hull, shields and the +1 turn rate. And an extra TAC console (:

Not seeing much point in the T5 Sabre tbh. The uprated "patrol escort" is better in literally every way. Its a shame, as I was hoping to be flying an Andorian style Ushaan for my VA, since they have delayed the Kumari retrofit again. Hope those aren't the final stats, at least for this class.

Why not give it an extra degree in turn rate, and make the Lt Sci a Lt Cmdr (maybe even reducing the Lt Cmdr Tac to Lt to compensate)? That would give it a boost whilst still being fairly realistic with canon and giving it a niche against (although not surpassing) the patrol escort. That and maybe shift that extra Eng console to either Tac or Sci and it would be onto a winner, although the durability doesn't hurt.

Last edited by dave18193; 07-04-2012 at 01:36 AM.
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# 30 SO
07-04-2012, 02:51 AM
how do I get that assault cruiser? ATM i have no fleet but
I have 5 VA toons
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