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# 41
07-05-2012, 11:26 AM
...and THATS why I say they base them off of notable events in Star Trek, Like "Federation Day" - Celebrating the date the Federation was created or a day to celebrate Kahless's victory over his brother giving birth to the Klingon Empire, Khitomer Day and VD Day (stop laughing!)- Celebrating the end of the Dominion War, Picard Day, Kirk Day, Garth Day, Cochrine Day, Phoenix Day/First Contact Day...etc...etc...etc...forget about celebrating "real world" things, STO players can't piss and moan (well they can) about celebrating "special" days in Star Trek "history".

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# 42
07-05-2012, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mkilczewski View Post
You can imagine the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" playing in the backround as you read this...
Glory, glory, hallelujah!

One small step away from giving thanks to the Emperor-God of Mankind.
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# 43
07-05-2012, 11:45 AM
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Actually I also find Winter Holiday/Event a little wrong as everyone in the world don't have Winter in December, I'm in Winter now actually and feel it's a little bias or more so naive to celebrate a season at a certain time when not everyone is in it. It's okay to do that locally or nationally but not internationally like we have a international community and customers for MMO's and such.
Do you not have Christmas (the secular commercial holiday about selling toys) in December where you are?
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# 44
07-05-2012, 11:56 AM
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You can imagine the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" playing in the backround as you read this...
I guess...I was thinking more along the lines of "Duelling Banjos" myself, but whatever.
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# 45
07-05-2012, 11:56 AM
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Do you not have Christmas (the secular commercial holiday about selling toys) in December where you are?
I guess they are on a different calendar and December 25th isn't on December 25th? lol
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# 46
07-05-2012, 01:02 PM
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I know the immediate response to this post and before you speak, allow me to do it for you.

"Typical American post! Because you assume everything in Starfleet is based off of American ideals, but it's not."

Got some news for you, it is. The Federation is based about 75% off of the society of the United States. Yes I know, it's a little more socialistic, but that was part of Roddenberry's dream was that with everyone having basic needs provided, what use was there for monetary gain? Since there is a galaxy to explore, who cares about money? Well I agree with this line of thought and I do think it's possible, but the ideals of freedom are very much an American ideal which is why I feel it would be appropriate for the STO community to celebrate the 4th of July. The Federation is about promoting peace and freedom throughout the galaxy. There is no slavery, there is no oppression and everyone is free to do what they want. Become an artist, a teacher, a poet, an engineer a Star Ship Captain, what ever you want to become stems from the ideals of a free society such a free society was founded on July 4th 1776. You may be thinking that the Federation isn't America in the future, but isn't it? Through America's history, we started promoting cultural diversity in ways most other countries never cared to do so. America thrives on different ethnic cultures and the exchange of ideas, principles that are key to the Federation's existence.

So all in all, I really hope that next year there is some sort of July 4th event be it a sale or a special mission or maybe even a fireworks show at Starfleet Academy. It is important to the Federation to remember history, and history says or will say that in Bozeman Montana, at a Nuclear Silo, the first warp ship is launched and that is why First Contact happens. No America, no Montana, no warp ship, no first contact, no Federation.

P.S.
If you're all angry about people complaining about language barriers, I got some interesting facts for you. First of all, the international language for air traffic is English and it's not optional. Yes even a German pilot leaving a German airport has to communicate to the control tower in English. And the Federation's language is also English.
Might be accussed of flaming, but as a historian I feel it necessary to point out a few simple truths.

Back in good old 1652 the Society of Friends, better known as the Quakers, was founded in England. Quakers will make vital contributions to the abolitionist and suffrage movements in the United States later on.

The British preempted their Slavery Abolition Act of 1833, whereas the American Congress only ratified theirs on the January 31, 1865.

So your theory is kind of mute. Just saying, the "ideals of freedom" which you so aptly refer to as an American predilection, were already well enshrined in other parts of the world.

But, if you are open to the idea that not all persons share your vigor for the 4th of July, then I am sure no-one else would have a problem with you're eagerness to celebrate it!

Hope you have a fantastic time, and remember that American has always been a symbol of hope, not just freedom to the rest of the world.

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# 47
07-05-2012, 01:10 PM
I thought the language was called 'Standard' in the future? All Feds speak Federation Standard, which is the English language...
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