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Join Date: Jun 2012
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I am sick and tired of one guy making a ultimate following against the pandas, tsi, and all other great fleets. saying were unfair, using exploits, cheats 3rd party programs etc. what this guy has done is created his own pvp channel and a pvp for his own fleets that follows his rules.

We all know he made his channel, My intention here was to move everyone to opvp like before so we can all have fun have 1 league not 2, so bridge the gap so to speak. SIVAR your a legen u ahve made what the devs havnet and created a good league system, with rules. BIG kudos!

I thought I would go to him myself, speak man to man, I asked what he accused us of here is list:

1. I myself apparently can run 125 all subsystems in tactical odysey usig a exploit. -confusion if anyone can enlighten me is this possible for a sci?

2. A person in my fleet can use proc's on demand- I thought it was server based chance??

3. A Person can increase power higher than cap to produce more damage- I thought figures ran off server really not off clients. I personally have been looking at position into create more dps and timing.

4. Apparently jemmys are bugged with distro doffs- well if you shoot at a jemmy because it is a panda there certainly goign to proc more than a average pug!

5. Directed Energy Modulation is broken - It is actually usefull now.... and running as intended

6. General spam (pets etc) - agreed pets need looking at
7. scramble sensors- since ive been in pandas not seen it used on any team ive been in- apparently jorf used it but hes been out of game since last july/august.

He said look at certain people which I have - even combat logged them. Found nothing unusual. I even suggested he views me playing using desktop viewer in a website so he can see how good I am in a cruiser but wouldnt let me accusing me of macro binding too. (im a clicker I admit it!)

To cut the story short We went into a PVP against him in random pug made. 3 Pandas 2 pugs vs his fleet.

first off he was wining 3:0 because his team was communicating ours was pug. Then after a few team chats: stay within 10km of me, Target binds. Ends up being 15:10 pandas side wins. He then says your guys are hacking in a tell to me. I was Like ?? your using DEM. I wasn't Asked other two and 1 was. He goes 3 of you, he names um 1 pandas 2 pugs. then decides to ignores me. Because apparently I am not serious and I am not willing to co-operate. usefull to ignore - cant defend myself.....

So I went onto a Teamspeak to chat to him (a friends server not his or mine)the basics was im exploiting. I said no and said 1 dem from panda 2 from pugs. He was like how are you using that broken stuff. I told him he actually had a good teamwork going in team and what your doing now is ruining your team and your name. he called me a mans penis( behaving words) and left annoyed but before he left I said to him. Go record me, check my logs, you can report me for hacking if you wish. Cryptic will realise im honest. I told him hes nothing more than a sore loser and your looking for exploits that dont exist.

He now will tell his whole team to warp out when see's a person he believes is exploiting

The annoying thing is the truth behind pandas, ts,i la familia, L.O.D. Risa Squadran, Sector 31, and all other great fleets is they are all communicating amongst each other healing sub nuc-ing etc. the reason why some do it better than others is they play in a team more frequently, there setup is optimised amongst themselves and tacs know where to be.

As you can see this has been frustrating for me, Here I am trying to patch up the pvp community trying to make it fun for all. Then getting put into the sin bin for hacking and apparently hes trying to catch me out and send it to the devs.

I decided to tell you all the truth so you can all make your own judgements. If your in either of the two channels and believe in 1 channel community please show your support.

The only guilty thing i have considered near exploit:

/bind Space "GenSendMessage HUD_Root FireAll $$ +TrayExecByTray 0 8$$ +TrayExecByTray 1 0$$ +TrayExecByTray 1 1$$ +TrayExecByTray 0 0$$ +TrayExecByTray 0 1$$ +TrayExecByTray 0 2$$ +TrayExecByTray 1 2"

I'm not asking for sides I want 1 community, I want members from both to talk and play properly with no warp outs.im wanting ovo fleets to pew against each other, 1v1, 2v2,3v3, enjoying rules. This can be done! SIVAR proved this. all of us need to communicate

For those who still need help with pvp there is always Sad Panda Cubs channel
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 2
07-05-2012, 02:25 AM

he he, sorry couldnt resist............................
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# 3
07-05-2012, 02:26 AM
-sighs- not much to do really....

except invite his team to our teams to see the "magic" that happens.
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# 4
07-05-2012, 02:30 AM
TBH i dont care if anyone hax, its just a game. enjoy and play.
nice long read though.
Career Officer
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# 5
07-05-2012, 02:39 AM
I told him its a game just chill, I get popped 75% hull full shields to 0 in split second from crits etc. I just shrug it off
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# 6
07-05-2012, 03:08 AM
Originally Posted by the4monkeys View Post
6. General spam (pets etc) - agreed pets need looking at
7. scramble sensors- since ive been in pandas not seen it used on any team ive been in- apparently jorf used it but hes been out of game since last july/august.
Actually, ever since the nerf I've made fun of people who use it

I haven't been gone that long. Maybe a couple months, but I drop in for the occasional game.
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# 7
07-05-2012, 03:09 AM
i used to see people deal impossible damage, and survive impossible damage, and i though they had to be using an exploit. then i figured out how to do it fair and square...

the thought "they have to be exploiting" hasn't crossed my mind in at least 6 mouths, but people have certainly tried to call me on it.

its as simple as L2P, L2 communicate, and L2 apply the correct amount of pressure at the correct time, be it heals or damage

here's a clue to all the hater, talking **** and then ignoring someone means you let your stupidity overpower your ability to learn. its not our fault we have the game more figured out then you.
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Lt. Commander
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# 8
07-05-2012, 03:35 AM
if there are any other PVP channels i certainly am not aware of them or they are private. If they are private I dont see them gaining any sort of precedent comparable to what OPVP has attained. If this other player has a pvp channel its nothing more than his tree house club and his buddies know where to find us if they need some solid advice when they get sick of his rhetoric
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# 9
07-05-2012, 07:11 AM
Originally Posted by the4monkeys View Post

The only guilty thing i have considered near exploit:

/bind Space "GenSendMessage HUD_Root FireAll $$ +TrayExecByTray 0 8$$ +TrayExecByTray 1 0$$ +TrayExecByTray 1 1$$ +TrayExecByTray 0 0$$ +TrayExecByTray 0 1$$ +TrayExecByTray 0 2$$ +TrayExecByTray 1 2"

Why would you consider this near exploitive?
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# 10
07-05-2012, 07:56 AM
To me flying bugs is or should be considered an exploit. It IS bar none the best escort in the game, and not even by a little margin.

That aside, really? Pascal you are still at this?

A year ago you were butt hurt about CAC, (and we weren't even in our prime then!) TSI, starting to hate on Coup De Grace, SOB, and even the 528th.

I think it's time you get off the rag man, and start taking some hormone pills to compensate for your perpetual state of PMS. Seriously man, you like need a doctor or something.

As far as him creating a fleet of Warpers goes, he should do it. I say more power to him. It will just be all the more entertaining when I catch it on video and host it up on youtube under What Not To Be Like. Complete with comedic commentary.

Last edited by mavairo; 07-05-2012 at 07:59 AM.

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