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# 1 Is this what its come to?
07-06-2012, 07:16 AM
I just got dome doing Khitomer Accord Space and I was guarding the time vortex and i lagged and wasnt able to destroy one probe in time and it got through barely and then my 'teammates' star saying I'm a noob and all Tac Cruisers are stupid noobs and Im a little kid and all this bs even when I explained what happened. So my Question is this, is everyone gonna troll people because they mess up a little and am I gonna be harrased for Running a tac Cruiser like I have been since I started playing, it took me less then a week to max out my toon, and is it wrong for me to use a Cruiser instead of an Escort?
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# 2
07-06-2012, 07:18 AM
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I just got dome doing Khitomer Accord Space and I was guarding the time vortex and i lagged and wasnt able to destroy one probe in time and it got through barely and then my 'teammates' star saying I'm a noob and all Tac Cruisers are stupid noobs and Im a little kid and all this bs even when I explained what happened. So my Question is this, is everyone gonna troll people because they mess up a little and am I gonna be harrased for Running a tac Cruiser like I have been since I started playing, it took me less then a week to max out my toon, and is it wrong for me to use a Cruiser instead of an Escort?
If they disabled optionally for PuGs, this would stop. The ONLY measure that should matter for PUGs is whether you finish the mission. That's it.
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# 3
07-06-2012, 07:22 AM
Your doing nothing wrong. They game's reward structure has conditioned them to feel and act that way.
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# 4
07-06-2012, 07:23 AM
Welcome to STO.............

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# 5
07-06-2012, 07:28 AM
Just ignore them and move one.
A good build tac cruiser/battlecruiser is a VERY viable build, especially in PvE/STFs.

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# 6
07-06-2012, 07:34 AM
You also have to remember, that when little children, or those with a child's mentality don't get their way, they will resort to name calling to make themselves feel superior.

When they resort to name calling, just remind yourself...
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# 7
07-06-2012, 07:35 AM
A tactical officer on a cruiser is the worst build ever, and people are telling you - without any respect, admittedly - that they don't like non optimal builds because it puts the mission at risk. It's like someone with one leg telling he wants to play in the national soccer team, some people can be very rude when they see that. I don't say they're right to behave like that but you should understand the word "elite", it's really for the best builds. If they complain you can also tell them that when they play with pugs, they take a risk they have to accept. Just don't be aggressive too when you read some angry feelings about what you do.

You shouldn't play stfs in a cruiser with someone esle but your fleetmates, they will be more tolerant. And there is plenty of pve content you can do with whatever ship you want with no one to provoke you.

Last edited by diogene0; 07-06-2012 at 07:39 AM.
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# 8
07-06-2012, 07:36 AM
In my experience, when the optional is missed, 99% of the time no one will say anything. The one thing I've learned about pugging the STFs is that ultimately, I am responsible for keeping an eye on the optional goal, and if we fail I have no one to blame for not staying on top of things but myself.

You were flying with a bunch of childish ragers. Give them the time and consideration they deserve: none.
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# 9
07-06-2012, 07:37 AM
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Your doing nothing wrong. They game's reward structure has conditioned them to feel and act that way.

This^^

If you want to do stf's without the trolls then do not do pugs anymore.

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# 10
07-06-2012, 07:39 AM
I do have a question, though. Where were you guarding? At the vortex or at the gate? Guarding the vortex at the vortex is a common mistake, and opens you up to minor connection hiccups screwing you. In the future you can probably avoid what happened by intercepting them as they warp in. That should give you plenty of time to make up for a lag spike.

As for the other, a tac cruiser is fine for probe duty. Set up well, it's a pretty good build. I've got a cruiser myself with a siege setup that's awful for PVP since its hard to keep anything faster than a planet in the firing arc, but is a terror in STFs where everything's stationary, slow, or travels in a predictable straight line.

Especially when both gates are still up, you don't need a lot of DPS to take them out, as a tac/escort I regularly cover both gates and still get bored between waves. It gets hairy when one gate is destroyed, but at that point you shouldn't be on probe duty alone anyway with everyone piled up in convenient position to help.

Last edited by hevach; 07-06-2012 at 07:43 AM.
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