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# 31
07-07-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thibash View Post
Then get ready to be slap-blocked because:

A) You're comparing consoles, not ships.
B) You're still giving up console slots you could have used for free consoles (which, surprise surprise, also give a ship more power )
C) The consoles you mentioned in your second post (theta & graviton) are available on the exchange and thus don't require you to spend a penny.

You sir, just got slap-blocked.
Meh. You sir, should have just realized how pathetic your existence is, given you actually believe this is any form of competition at all.

Regardless, the specifics of how you are wrong still stand...

A.) I don't compare either, actually. I compare what can be obtained via CPoints instantly versus what is not immediately available, given this is a PvP comparison and the PvE for dilithium is irrelevant. But no, I compared the Armitage to the Fleet Escort as well - Armitage has the fighter capacity that the Fleet Escort does not have, and 4 Runabouts is a rather huge advantage, ESPECIALLY in a 1v1 engagement. If you don't know that much, you're unfit for PvP.

B.) I'm giving up console slots of my choice. AMS for example (among several others) is vastly more useful than a depreciating-return on an extra armor or field emitter. The depreciated return on the two of those versus AMS and the Armitage (from the aforementioned notation) Torp Spread console (equal in damage to a Torp Spread 3 with an unlimited target acquisition and 360 degree radius) is laughable at best. And that is only one possible CPoint combination of many.

C.) Z0MG!!1!1ShiftOne! I mentioned two consoles that are on the exchange!!! 2 CONSOLES ON THE EXCHANGE?!?!?!?!

BLLLLLAAAAASPHEMY!!!!!!

That suddenly makes EVERYTHING said completely useless to someone who obviously doesn't PvP!

Whatever shall I do?!

...Yeah.

Nevertheless, you're correct. I mentioned 2 consoles available on the exchange... among the many more that aren't, which you had overlooked in your short-sighted attempt to seek some form of "victory" against an obviously superior PvPer...

After all, can't get it in the game, so have to seek that vanity here, amirite?!

So slap-blocked... I don't know how I will ever live with myself... /sarcasm

Enjoy your weekend, "sir".
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# 32
07-09-2012, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by shimmerless View Post
But this is actually part of the whole issue with quads. In PvE, targets are largely stationary or sedate at best; buffing their base damage or giving them over 9,000 [Dmg] mods will eventually make them superior to DHCs.

But in PvP, with a lack of even one [Acc] mod you're just not going to hit anything that's moving faster than a drunk wino reaching for the TV remote. Quads aren't bad because of their DPS, it's because you cannot damage anyone if the bolts aren't making contact.
What? None of my DHCs have [Acc], and I have no problems hitting players with 70%-85% defense....
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# 33
07-09-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shookyang View Post
What? None of my DHCs have [Acc], and I have no problems hitting players with 70%-85% defense....
That may be the case, though it is important to remember that Accuracy bleeds into Crit.

More Accuracy not only means better hit rate, but higher Crit rate as well.

Both lead to greater DPS.
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# 34
07-09-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
That may be the case, though it is important to remember that Accuracy bleeds into Crit.

More Accuracy not only means better hit rate, but higher Crit rate as well.

Both lead to greater DPS.
The problem with that, is that I have yet to find an Antiproton or Phaser DHC mk XI or XII with [Acc]x3. I'd rather go for straight [CrtD].

And regardless, the post I was responding to indicated that, without [Acc], you can't hit any ships in PvP. This is an incorrect statement.
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# 35
07-09-2012, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shookyang View Post
The problem with that, is that I have yet to find an Antiproton or Phaser DHC mk XI or XII with [Acc]x3. I'd rather go for straight [CrtD].

And regardless, the post I was responding to indicated that, without [Acc], you can't hit any ships in PvP. This is an incorrect statement.
Granted, and not contesting that.

Though you'd be surprised on what Kerrat will breed in loot... got several of my Dreadnought's ACC3 XII weapons there. Already 3 of my Armitage's.
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