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# 1 What's your PVP fleet like?
09-15-2012, 09:06 AM
I just learned that my fleet is supposedly dead!? Other than that little problem with someone occasionally announcing weird things, it's a great fleet since it is focussed on PVP and nobody ever turns down a pvp team invite claiming that they have to PVE.

What's the defining characteristic of your PVP fleet?
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# 2
09-15-2012, 09:55 AM
Well the Sad Pandas are definitely still a PvP fleet. However, the lack of serious competition is becoming a problem for us. Most don't enjoy queuing up to roflstomp PUGs, so we are doing a lot of PUGging ourselves, or grinding the starbase. Honestly the state of PvP (P2W, underwhelming sci, yo-yo healing on never before seen scales, etc.) has driven it to this. There are simply not enough premades to go around. When 1 or 2 of us happen to encounter a premade in the queues, it is almost impossible to get them to set up for a proper match, or give up their cheese to do so. Sad, really, just sad.
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# 3
09-15-2012, 11:27 AM
We only have about 8-10 fledged PVPers, so maybe we dont deserve to be called a PVP fleet? The other few hundred are happy in PVE. We join the queues in singles, pairs and 5 mans but i wouldnt call them "premades". We can **** Exilez, Nova & Steel Talon type fleets and thats about it. We're crying out for more PVPers but what can you do lol? Most would rather join a sucsessful PVP fleet and ride on their current sucsess instead of making they're own.

As Bran rightly says, people don't fight Pandas because the chances are they will lose. Why try and push a wall that cant be moved? Sadly Critz and SB suck in all good PVPers that arnt rooted to theyre fleets and thus there isnt enough in other fleets to keep it fresh. Victims of they're own sucsess.
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# 4
09-15-2012, 11:35 AM
Thanks to the Dumb Ass Starbase system, I doubt we'll ever see new Fleets become High End. It's quite simply too much work now to start over from scratch. It's why I finally put the kaibosh on the CAC and gave up any hope of resurrecting it. No one wants to join a fleet that has a low level starbase, furthermore, pvp fleets are naturally going to have starbases that are behind the curve unless they give up the very thing they love and cherish (pvp) in order to grind the Dumb Ass Starbase.

Starbases, have killed any hope of pvp fleets starting up from the ground level. And it's going to be a long time before any of the existing fleets come back to pvp, thanks to the Dumb Ass that decided starbases that had nothing to do with pvp in any shape or form was a good idea.

With the shoddy, half hearted slap together way we have to grind starbases, you would have to do more than just add fleet marks to pvp. You'd have to add Doff Rewards as well, and boost the EC gains so you can afford to put in provisions into the starbase just by pvping.

GG Cryptic. You killed pvp in the long term by another short sighted poorly thought out system.

Last edited by ghostyandfrosty; 09-15-2012 at 11:37 AM.
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# 5
09-15-2012, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ghostyandfrosty View Post
Thanks to the Dumb Ass Starbase system, I doubt we'll ever see new Fleets become High End. It's quite simply too much work now to start over from scratch. It's why I finally put the kaibosh on the CAC and gave up any hope of resurrecting it. No one wants to join a fleet that has a low level starbase, furthermore, pvp fleets are naturally going to have starbases that are behind the curve unless they give up the very thing they love and cherish (pvp) in order to grind the Dumb Ass Starbase.

Starbases, have killed any hope of pvp fleets starting up from the ground level. And it's going to be a long time before any of the existing fleets come back to pvp, thanks to the Dumb Ass that decided starbases that had nothing to do with pvp in any shape or form was a good idea.

With the shoddy, half hearted slap together way we have to grind starbases, you would have to do more than just add fleet marks to pvp. You'd have to add Doff Rewards as well, and boost the EC gains so you can afford to put in provisions into the starbase just by pvping.

GG Cryptic. You killed pvp in the long term by another short sighted poorly thought out system.
Very true, and again, very sad.
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ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIYOTT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ: Have you wondered that maybe all the things they've added to the gaem lately is to literally make PvP unbearable? Because everything they've added has no use in PvE at all; we know the big boss hates 14 yo min maxers
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# 6
09-15-2012, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by aquitaine985 View Post
We only have about 8-10 fledged PVPers, so maybe we dont deserve to be called a PVP fleet? The other few hundred are happy in PVE. We join the queues in singles, pairs and 5 mans but i wouldnt call them "premades". We can **** Exilez, Nova & Steel Talon type fleets and thats about it. We're crying out for more PVPers but what can you do lol? Most would rather join a sucsessful PVP fleet and ride on their current sucsess instead of making they're own.

As Bran rightly says, people don't fight Pandas because the chances are they will lose. Why try and push a wall that cant be moved? Sadly Critz and SB suck in all good PVPers that arnt rooted to theyre fleets and thus there isnt enough in other fleets to keep it fresh. Victims of they're own sucsess.
This is why we set up a SP/Critz chat channel. So we could still have some PvP fun, unfortunately it's been really quiet there.

What we really need is an organized PVP chat channel... oh wait.

Participation is just poor lately. I've tried getting peeps on Panda Vent to set up some fun matches with random teams made up of members from different fleets. It happens sometimes, but usually it just gets ignored.
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ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIYOTT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ: Have you wondered that maybe all the things they've added to the gaem lately is to literally make PvP unbearable? Because everything they've added has no use in PvE at all; we know the big boss hates 14 yo min maxers
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# 7
09-15-2012, 12:13 PM
Yeah, its a sad state of affairs going on in PvP. Now my new eng content ( healing toon) is reaching end game.

A lot of new games are in the pipeline comming up and I forsee less of me playing this game. Doesn't mean I will quit just nothing to do in this game atm.
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# 8
09-15-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostyandfrosty View Post
Thanks to the Dumb Ass Starbase system, I doubt we'll ever see new Fleets become High End. It's quite simply too much work now to start over from scratch. It's why I finally put the kaibosh on the CAC and gave up any hope of resurrecting it.
Awwww man. I liked the CAC guys.
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# 9
09-15-2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fakehilbert View Post
I just learned that my fleet is supposedly dead!? Other than that little problem with someone occasionally announcing weird things, it's a great fleet since it is focussed on PVP and nobody ever turns down a pvp team invite claiming that they have to PVE.

What's the defining characteristic of your PVP fleet?
Yeah that was bit rash for zorena. Looks like you guys need to talk more.
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Future Capt Gecko II Hitlers take on PvP
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# 10
09-15-2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fakehilbert View Post
I just learned that my fleet is supposedly dead!? Other than that little problem with someone occasionally announcing weird things, it's a great fleet since it is focussed on PVP and nobody ever turns down a pvp team invite claiming that they have to PVE.

What's the defining characteristic of your PVP fleet?
Who says our fleet is dead?

Im on break until the science is fixed. then i'll be back with a vengance.
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