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# 21
07-17-2012, 04:19 AM
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I'd lay good money on the Fleet Assault Cruiser being two things:

1. A test run for reception to a more aggressive FED cruiser BOff and console layout, akin to the Vor'cha; particularly in gauging both KDF and FED reaction to it.

2. A preview of what we'll see when the the ZEN Store Assault Cruiser comes out, as that'll probably have a console and not an innate power, allowing them to release a Fleet version of it ala the Armitage.

With its radical departure in BOff layout, I'm willing to bet that it'll probably only have a few aesthetic cues tying it the the current Sovereign/Assault Cruiser, ala the Armitage to the Akira.
Not only that but also the improved looks, I have seen the fleet versions and im not impressed. Except for the armtiage and a few others. Here they can give the refit a 25th/2409 design and bring in the nemesis design either from the film or the finalised version which never made it in but the designer made a schematic of it before it was removed from the film luckily. If you know what design I am talking about.
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# 22
07-17-2012, 04:53 AM
I do indeed, though from what I remember reading, someone at Cryptic said they would not pursue the Nemesis refit as it was too close to the original in design.
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# 23
07-17-2012, 11:55 AM
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I do indeed, though from what I remember reading, someone at Cryptic said they would not pursue the Nemesis refit as it was too close to the original in design.
TO CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL!!! the basic shape is still the same yes but there is alot that has changed. Fair enough but they could at least fix the sovy in the game to look like the original e.g. the nacelles are too low. To me they are just saying they are to lazy and cba. Look at the fleet ships in the game, they don't look like 25th century/2409 style to me. Im so disappointed in that area.
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# 24
07-21-2012, 07:08 AM
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I do indeed, though from what I remember reading, someone at Cryptic said they would not pursue the Nemesis refit as it was too close to the original in design.
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TO CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL!!! the basic shape is still the same yes but there is alot that has changed. Fair enough but they could at least fix the sovy in the game to look like the original e.g. the nacelles are too low. To me they are just saying they are to lazy and cba. Look at the fleet ships in the game, they don't look like 25th century/2409 style to me. Im so disappointed in that area.
That is not logical.

It's the designers original intent, thus it is the original and the ultimate. There is no viable reason to not put it in the game, other than a lack of desire or will to actually make the tweaks to the model. It's not even a ground up redesign. They could just add the parts to the customization. They would be used rapidly.
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# 25
07-21-2012, 10:34 AM
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That is not logical.

It's the designers original intent, thus it is the original and the ultimate. There is no viable reason to not put it in the game, other than a lack of desire or will to actually make the tweaks to the model. It's not even a ground up redesign. They could just add the parts to the customization. They would be used rapidly.
lmao it is logical because it look and in nemesis performs better. Hence why we want it in because we like the nemesis look also this http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...final-e-small/ is what was supposed to happen apprantly the E get another refit and this is the end result of the refit. This is true to the ordinal design. I would love to have either the nemesis E look already shown in the film or the never before seen final refit E look.

also look at this http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2012/...#comment-18679

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# 27
07-30-2012, 09:22 PM
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lmao it is logical because it look and in nemesis performs better. Hence why we want it in because we like the nemesis look also this http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...final-e-small/ is what was supposed to happen apprantly the E get another refit and this is the end result of the refit. This is true to the ordinal design. I would love to have either the nemesis E look already shown in the film or the never before seen final refit E look.

also look at this http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2012/...#comment-18679
im pretty sure your the only one who thinks that post nemisis look is superior looking to the stock sovereign that we saw in nemisis. the pylons look wide and stupid, the big angular crease in the secondary hull looks stupid, and the change in shape of the secondary hull looks stupid. thankfully that look never got any air time, it's canon look is far superior.
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# 28
07-31-2012, 08:09 AM
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im pretty sure your the only one who thinks that post nemisis look is superior looking to the stock sovereign that we saw in nemisis. the pylons look wide and stupid, the big angular crease in the secondary hull looks stupid, and the change in shape of the secondary hull looks stupid. thankfully that look never got any air time, it's canon look is far superior.

lol I never said it is superior to the nemesis look. You have to have a good eye to see this. If you look in this image http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...final-e-small/ from the birs ey view you can see whathe artist/designer is doing also the idea behind this look was to make the sovereign class look more tougher even I though it didn't but it looks nice. SO you have to options here go for the sleeker version or the tougher looking looking one. Either way I rather have the nemesis E look from the movie http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2010/...ans-nem-small/ or the other look for the refit/retrofit to have. If the galaxy class can have a sleeker version and a tougher looking one, the dreadnought, why can't other ships have one to.
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# 29
08-04-2012, 10:18 AM
I think a lot of us want the Sovereign refit from nemisis. We just don't post in the forums. According to that link that op provided, the saucer in game is too long and the nacelles are not high enough. I think (along with most of my guild) that it would be an easy thing to change and there is no reason NOT to stick to cannon.
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# 30
08-04-2012, 10:49 AM
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I think a lot of us want the Sovereign refit from nemisis. We just don't post in the forums. According to that link that op provided, the saucer in game is too long and the nacelles are not high enough. I think (along with most of my guild) that it would be an easy thing to change and there is no reason NOT to stick to cannon.
lol yes alot of us want the nemesis sovereign to be used as a costume for the AC, tbh in my opinion the devs should have used it in the first place because sto is set 30+ years after nemesis and it is in the prime-verse so no excuses about that. lmao a lot of players including yours truly have post the nemesis sovy and the final refit version which never made it in the game just go to the shipyard forums there are loads of threads there and in the star trek online forum room too.

http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com...nem-small2.jpg

here in this schematic of the nemesis sovy you can see the saucer looks bigger because either is had the lenght and the width increase or just the width, plus the nacelles have been risen so the the viewer can see the from put of the nacelles more clearly and stand out, added wall by the main engineering to make the transition of the saucer connects to the main engineering, also the main engineering section has been changed too either has been made wider at the top put or had liposuction done. Plus there is more windows on the nem sovy too. Plus the new paint job and aztec pattern added.

and here http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2012/...tec-paint-job/ also star trek 11 would of been another TNG movie .

dontdrunkimshoot good news they decided not the add that line on the back off the engineering section I mentioned in my previous post. In this pic http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com..._front_v01.jpg is what the E would have looked like in ST11 Also noticed they still kept the nacelles extending half way on the engineering section, not to sure about that.

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