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Lt. Commander
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# 11
07-12-2012, 12:18 PM
I really want to buy the NX however as of now I cannot justify it. 400CP for a [lovely] ship that I could barely use? Even if I started a new character, it'd be useful for a few days then be obsolete again.

I'd love a T5 model.
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# 12
07-12-2012, 12:28 PM
The NX is now classed as an Escort. (or will be/ is on tribble)

While I understand wanting to use the ship you like, there has to be an end to lower tier ship usefulness. I really don't want to see a 'giant' NX out there as a T5 ship.

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Originally Posted by thibash View Post
Actually, making lower tier ships playable again is a major part of the season 6 fleet system...
Actually, they are not making then playable 'again', these are new ships that just look like the old ones.
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# 13
07-12-2012, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by carmenara View Post
As the shipyard description says the NX-01 is a replica which means the same ship built with 25th Century tech.

If they wanted it they could make a beefed up NX-01 heavy escort instead... but oh wait! NX-01 -> Akira -> Armitage
I don't know if this is in game since I'm not currently playing, but this came from the wiki

The NX Class Starship Replica sports the classic look of Earth's starships from the 22nd century, but has been updated with modern technology to meet current Starfleet specifications for Lieutenant-rank missions.
Lt. Commander
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# 14
07-12-2012, 04:27 PM
It shouldnt be to hard to make an old model ship up to date. Historicaly, and in alot of games and books, high ranking captians have held on to older model ships and had them updated instead of moving to a newer model.

Here are some readymade excuses:
1. A captain with alot of influence commissions a new ship baised on an old hull design.

2. A private company willing to build fully modern ships to any design for the right price.

3. "Weaker" ships being retroft to handle the harsher reality of a hostile galaxy.

4. Old ships of the "mothball fleet" being refit and pressed into service to handle the growing demands of war.

A ship hull is just a skin(armor aside), its the tech that makes it advanced. You could make a giant Saturn V rocket and fill it with enough tech to match a borg cube.

Also, the vulcan D'Kyr is FAR older than the NX but is still a T5 ship. Sure, it was more advanced to begin with, but it must have been upgraded given that is can use transwarp.
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# 15
07-12-2012, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thibash View Post
Actually, making lower tier ships playable again is a major part of the season 6 fleet system...
The ships don't scale they are just more powerful versions of existing ships. The same way you can have a Tier 4 or Tier 5 Galaxy or Defiant. The OP wants to be able to level up in the same ship, without commissioning a new ship. That won't happen.
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# 16
07-12-2012, 08:59 PM
Finally, an ENT fan that is echoing a lot of my sentiments about the TOS Connie...

Relegating NX and Connie to "tier 1 only", which can be burnt through in hours, and charging any amount of money ($5 for the ship alone, $20+ in a bundle) for it is, currently, a waste of good ships.

Especially since every other season/era fan, TMP, TNG, DS9, VOY gets a free low-tier (TMP Connie-Refit in 2, Excelsior in 3, Galaxy/Intrepid/Defiant in 4) and a tier "5+1", aka VA, ship (Excelsior, Galaxy, Defiant and Intrepid retrofits).

Game logic is fail. D'Kyr as Tier 5 (RA), being just as "old" a design as NX, and older than Constitution, means that any ship can be brought up to "end game" spec. Even if NX stays an escort, and Connie gets "swapped" into the Science group in the "conversion" to end-game. Armitage is yet another slap in the "too old argument's" face, as the Armitage is a "new design intended to do what the Akira originally was meant to do, torp defended carrier. Why can't Starfleet's engineers re-design the Connie and NX hull? I was hoping for some old-school love in the new fleet ships, and again, everything but the tier 2 cruiser (because Connie-Refit from TMP is in there) and tier 1 gets representation, including a third Defiant, Intrepid and "plain" Galaxy.

I'd love to see the NX and Connie get into the "fleet module" system, where you still have to pay an additional $5 charge (fleet module) on top of owning the ship already. Heck, take the NX and Connie standalone ships out of the zen-store entirely, and disable the "4 module if you don't own it option", driving both bundle sales and module sales (also keeps it out of the hands of most "pure" F2Ps, as bundles can't be resold on the exchange like 4x fleet modules can, so it's either pony up for the bundle or grind weeks of dilithium).
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Still at it. CBS "restrictions" fell by wayside with freebie Breen. Time to re-examine ENT and ToS at tier 5, repurpose the Connie into Sci and rebuild an Akira escort into the "NX". 6 "eras", spread evenly over all the classes...
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# 17
07-12-2012, 10:08 PM
You all ever think there are actual reasons behind classes like the Excelsior and the D'Kyr are still around and why the NX and Connies aren't? Maybe its more than they are old...look at how many NX's were even built...if you include books and all the stuff there was what only a dozen maybe less built.

Technology evolves, ever consider some designs can only go so far and can't accept all these new technologies and would not function correctly? That maybe you can't load a ship to the teeth with 25th century tech without changing the ship...

So they can build a replica of a 250 year old ship...perhaps they can't push it further without modification thus not making it a NX class anymore.
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# 18
07-12-2012, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by enigmawolffie View Post
T5 ships are free! I got my assault cruiser with a ship token, that was free when I reached rear admira
I bet yah 100ec those ships will be useless for the Season 7 missions.

Anyway, the Defiant is the size of a Volkswagon. They can squeeze that firepower into a NX shape.
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# 19
07-13-2012, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lianthelia View Post
You all ever think there are actual reasons behind classes like the Excelsior and the D'Kyr are still around and why the NX and Connies aren't? Maybe its more than they are old...look at how many NX's were even built...if you include books and all the stuff there was what only a dozen maybe less built.

Technology evolves, ever consider some designs can only go so far and can't accept all these new technologies and would not function correctly? That maybe you can't load a ship to the teeth with 25th century tech without changing the ship...

So they can build a replica of a 250 year old ship...perhaps they can't push it further without modification thus not making it a NX class anymore.

While I understand what you mean, this argument fails because of the starships that *have* been allowed to go on to Tier-5.

My goodness, we have Tier-5 K'a'tingas and B'rels: TOS and TMP vessels, respectivley. If the Klinks can get a B'rel to run at Tier-5, and if the lovable feddies can run an Enterprise-era Tier-5 Vulcan Science Vessel, certainly a Tier-5 Miranda and Excalibur/Exeter would be very possible.
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# 20
07-18-2012, 11:42 AM
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So they can build a replica of a 250 year old ship...perhaps they can't push it further without modification thus not making it a NX class anymore.
The only real limit in starship design is that it must hold together under acceleration. The Borg use acual flying bricks for goodness sake. Even if the iternals have to change the hull doesnt, mabye make it a bit larger. As someone else pointed out, the Defiant it fully modern and it is alot smaller than the NX. It would be simple as pie to add TOS Enterprise and NX to the new fleet shipyard, you just need to convince the Devs to do it.
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