Career Officer
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# 111
07-12-2012, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jayfresh11 View Post
This might sound like a stupid question, but I am completely clueless about the whole fleet ship situation. If I'm in a fleet, do I have to get a fleet ship? What is the deal with fleet ship modules? I made it to vice admiral not too long ago and I bought the tactical escort retrofit, and I have no intention of paying anymore money to buy another ship. Couldn't I just use the ship I have during fleet missions?
You need Fleet Ship Modules (c-store item, pony up the cash) to be able to buy a fleet ship.

Fleet ships aren't mandatory, but they ARE upgraded versions of the current dilithium/c-store ships. Upgrades included extra console slots, better BOff slots, and upgraded ship stats.

And yes, the "fleet tactical escort retrofit" will trounce your c-store "tactical escort retrofit".

Take your complaints up with the Dark Masters of PWE.
Lieutenant
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# 112
07-12-2012, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by burstdragon323 View Post
See, Brandon, you and the devs just dont get it.

By making it tradeable on the exchange, you have made it IMPOSSIBLE for anyone but a SMALL number of players to get them.

Want to know why?

Because by the end of the week, they will all be posted at the max of 1 BILLION EDCs.

You and the devs just dont understand that your game is populated by MERCHANTS, whose only life goal is to play the exchange to their ingame profit, even though it is only fantasy money, and not real money.

Until you actually put a cap on items like these in the exchange, all you've donr for us in Season 6 is give us nothing but a massive headache.
^ that or drop the purple junk. make energy credits universal, revamp crafting so players make most of the stuff and give me a spread sheet to run my transactions.

That way I can dump EVE and get both my kicks here. } I have to be a ferengi over there when I should be doing it here.
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# 113
07-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by matridunadan1 View Post
You need Fleet Ship Modules (c-store item, pony up the cash) to be able to buy a fleet ship.

Fleet ships aren't mandatory, but they ARE upgraded versions of the current dilithium/c-store ships. Upgrades included extra console slots, better BOff slots, and upgraded ship stats.

And yes, the "fleet tactical escort retrofit" will trounce your c-store "tactical escort retrofit".

Take your complaints up with the Dark Masters of PWE.
Thanks for answering my question.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,192
# 114
07-12-2012, 11:58 PM
I had never anything against selling NEW ships, with NEW layouts, NEW abilities and NEW skins through C-Store. Ie. there was much work in them, and I appreciated the work done with my money.

But the whole fleet ship situation is beyond GREEDY.

Those fleet ships are NOT NEW SHIPS, ALMOST NONE HAS NEW layouts, NO NEW abilities and NO NEW skins. What's more, some of the Fleet layouts are completely useless. They are unlocks only for ONE character and add only few numbers here and there, something a person can do in excel sheet in half day - and to be honest, some of the experienced players could do much better work at it.

Even tho I was buying ships in the past, I WONT BUY ANY fleet token.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 115
07-13-2012, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
Don't forget that the Fleet Ship Modules are tradable so you may be able to find one on the exchange. And as always, you can sell Dilithium on the Dilithium Exchange for ZEN.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
As everyone here has made transparently clear, Brandon, this is a SNAFU. The Dilithium prices are sky-high and any FSMs that show up on the Exchange will be in the 8- to 9-digit range. If you actually think more than a fifth of the players here actually have that much ECs in stock, you are sadly out of touch. Remember the Gold Lockbox Exchange that some dev FUBAR'd? That only rewarded players who exploited a bug and punished players who didn't. It made the rich richer, which caused all prices to be jacked up even higher.

Like soundwisdom asked, do you actually play this game? Just try it, please. Create a secret, entirely new PWE account and play this game without the use of your dev powers and dev pocketbook.
Career Officer
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# 116
07-13-2012, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
They are unlocks only for ONE character
Clarification question: Are they truly unlocks, or are they like the Ferengi shuttle, discharge it and pay for another?
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 29
# 117
07-13-2012, 12:06 AM
Wow. As someone who has been trying very hard to stay positive about this game, to convince my friends to keep playing, to keep everyone involved, this is utterly a slap in the face. The cost is obscene in time in resources as it is, but on top of it its obscene in Zen? That's just too much. I'll peck away at our fleets starbase, but don't expect me to ever buy one of those tokens at that price.

As someone before said, as a per character unlock 100zen would be reasonable. Maybe 500 zen but reduced resource costs. But 2000? I know many of the devs probably had absolutely no say in the pricing, but seriously. For shame. How greedy. How absolutely greedy.

You know what's more difficult than getting people to pay for in game items for profit? Getting an empty playerbase to do the same.
Starfleet Veteran
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# 118
07-13-2012, 12:10 AM
Uhm, I don't get the rage. People, if you buy the C-Store version, you can also get, for some grinding and a minor amount of money, a tradeable, improved version.

As soon as you plan to have at least two characters use that ship, you'll buy the C-store version, and get a big discount. And what's more, you can trade them in for tons and tons of in-game money.

Besides, the fleet ships are only very slightly superior to the non-fleet versions. So you could as well pretend they don't exist and be happy with the game as it is.
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Captain
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# 119
07-13-2012, 12:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matridunadan1 View Post
Clarification question: Are they truly unlocks, or are they like the Ferengi shuttle, discharge it and pay for another?
Well you obviously buy the marks only for one character, so you get it only for one character. Unlock was probably poor wording on my part.
Republic Veteran
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# 120
07-13-2012, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by martokus View Post
You know what's more difficult than getting people to pay for in game items for profit? Getting an empty playerbase to do the same.
Nailed it right on the head there. I was so looking forward to getting a fleet upgrade for my Excelsior, but forget it now. In fact, I am giving up dropping any further money in this game. I understand PWE needs money to keep the game running, but must they suck us dry to do it?

PWE are money vampires


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