Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,251
# 361
07-17-2012, 11:42 AM
I?m just stunned at the way this whole Fleet Star Base and Fleet Vessel system is being handled by PWE\Cryptic.

It takes some pretty large spheres to outright double shaft the player base like they are doing.

Ok so if I don?t already own the T5 C-Store version of the Fleet vessel that I want I?ll need to buy 4 Fleet Modules @ $5.00 a piece for a total of $20.00 + grind out countless amounts of in-game mats for at least 4 months to level up the bases Dry Dock just for the privilege to fly a per character Fleet Version of a ship!

Or

I own the C-Store version of the T5 Fleet Ship that I want that most likely already cost me $25.00 and I?ll need to buy 1 $5.00 Fleet Module + grind out countless amounts of in-game mats for at least 4 months to level up the bases Dry Dock just for the privilege to fly a per character Fleet Version of a ship!

All the members of the Brain Trust that came up with this system must have suffered some form of head trauma beforehand to remotely believe that this system was acceptable!

If it was an account wide unlock for players that did not already own the C-Store version of the Fleet Vessel then it would not sting has much.

This system shafts players that already shelled out for the C-Store versions of Fleet ships!

This system shafts gold and lifetime members that earned C-Store ships via vet tokens!

This system shafts anyone that wants to earn any of the Fleet ships by forcing us to grind for months and still expecting us to fork over some cash to just to use a per character Fleet ship! (It?s Grind + Time Sink or buy Outright, Never Both!)

Thanks for kicking us all up the Mivonks
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 45
# 362
07-17-2012, 11:55 AM
If you already own the T5 version, why would you want to own the Fleet version? Just for 5% more hull? A different paint job?

It's not like they're forcing you to do anything.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 622
# 363
07-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Any news on the sovereign refit? Also the new design for the fleet ships, look like a lazy job. They just changed the colour and added neon lights around the edge. What happened to the 2409/25th century design? The reason people would want to go for the fleet ship because its more powerful than the standard version. Also if people want both they can buy the z-store version and add the console to the fleet version.

i think also u get a add console slot to.

Last edited by raj011; 07-17-2012 at 12:11 PM.
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# 364
07-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boorman73 View Post
If you already own the T5 version, why would you want to own the Fleet version? Just for 5% more hull? A different paint job?

It's not like they're forcing you to do anything.
More Hull more shields and and 1 extra console slot.

Your call
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,000
# 365
07-17-2012, 12:36 PM
Fleet Tactical Escort:
33k hull
+1 Tac console

Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier:
35.2k hull
+1 Sci console

Nasty ships in the right hands. Some of the others are just silly, like the destroyer. Fleet Patrol Escort also seems rather nasty with a lot of hull. Some of these ships were already rather hard to take down in PVP unless you trapped them in something.
Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor

LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 21
# 366
07-17-2012, 01:41 PM
On top of all that's already been said let's not forget that even when you have built up your shipyard and starbase to lvl 5, and have unlocked all the fleet ships, you then have to stock your fleet ship store - see the S6 dev blog #2 and I quote, "Add limited numbers of new ships or other elite equipment to Fleet stores."

So every time your fleet runs a project to stock the shipyard you'll get a limited number of ships added to the fleet ship store for sale and once those are bought you'll need to run the project again to restock. Same goes for the ship equipment fleet store and ground equipment fleet store as well as the new operational assets store.


My point is that when you get your fleet starbase to tier 5 the grind isn't over by a long shot, especially for the very large fleets who will have to spend vast amounts of resources to continually restock the various fleet stores so members can buy stuff.
My main character is T'Les which was also my former forum name and I want it back! Hylarr is one of my alts.

Last edited by hylarr; 07-17-2012 at 01:44 PM.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 11
# 367
07-17-2012, 08:54 PM
They really need to update the f2p where it's "fee to play" or put in a * for the Free to Play stating that it is a limited to f2p due to fact i'm seeing more than a stretch of the imagination to be able to conjure up any of these ships.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 33
# 368
07-18-2012, 07:08 AM
what about when it says "Requiers Vice Admiral Rank" now that just means that you have to be a VA or a VA in your fleet?
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 245
# 369
07-19-2012, 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by specter153 View Post
what about when it says "Requiers Vice Admiral Rank" now that just means that you have to be a VA or a VA in your fleet?
VA in game rank, not fleet.
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GG, Cryptic. GG.
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