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# 31
07-25-2012, 12:45 PM
700 Zen?

LOL

Are you all insane?
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# 32
07-25-2012, 12:47 PM
WTF 700zen for a lousy outfit, where and how often we gonna use this as there is nothing to do with it except the one ground zone that a end gamer can solo mostly in few hours.

Per character too???????

WTF Cryptic wth is going on with you greedy sods.
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# 33
07-25-2012, 12:48 PM
700 Zen for only a charactr and for a item that I can only use 2 hrs a day if I have really luck to be during the event and wish to play that thouse rpetitive missions???

Sure.. nice try cryptic.
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# 34
07-25-2012, 12:48 PM
Doe sit at least act as costume option or do i have to wear the actual suit as well, breaking all ground sets? Especially the Tholian one, which at mk12 is also very expensive and looks like a bad movies rejected wardrobe?

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# 35
07-25-2012, 12:49 PM
Close eyes... count from one to ten.

Okay. Now I can post without raging, because that was my initial wish. Honestly, I expected this to be a C-Store item. But I hoped that by seven dollars this would be account unlock. I have 6 chars. If I want one for each, I will have to pay 42 dollars. And I will say this: By $ 20 dollars I bought on Steam Mass Effect one and two on steam last week. Now, Cryptic. Put this on costumer perspective: do you think that someone will be crazy enough to put this ludicrous amount of money into a single item? Someone could arguee that it is actually 6 itens. But they are all identical. So in this sense they are just one item. Perhaps someone really obessed with the game or really rich would do this. But I think the average players are neither of these. So basically, the average player will not buy this item, but will be always wishing it (or at least me, and I consider myself an average player). On the end it is bad for the company that doesn't profit from this. And it is bad by the costumer that get frustrated and my stop playing, what once again is bad for the company. No one wins. But the company isn't mine. It isn't me who will be losing money. So not my problem...

The same thing goes to the fleet ships. We have already paid it by helping the fleet with doff, dilithium etc. For me doesn't sound right to ask more 20 dollars for one. And I surely will not be buing something that expensive. As I said, by the same price, I buy not one, but TWO FULL games. What is really bad because Cryptic will not profit from me on this and I will be wishing it.

Hope some dev see this and give some though on it.
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# 36
07-25-2012, 12:53 PM
lol

Are you guys really surprised at this? Really? These are the same people that want to charge you $20 for a single character unlock fleet ship. Is $7 per character now suddenly all that shocking? Granted I don't like this either, but it's hardly surprising anymore.

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# 37
07-25-2012, 12:53 PM
You really are trying to become a generic space MMO. What'll be next? Removing Phasers and Disruptors from loot tables, crafting and shipyards, and forcing people to fit out their ship with random energy types unless they're willing to shell out 400 Zen per phaser bank just to get a little authenticity?

I honestly can't manage outrage anymore. This is getting to be par for the course. So really just more of a general feeling of disgust. There's only one way out for you now. Do the "working as intended, just gotta fix this typo" routine you've perfected in the recent past, and lose one of those zeroes.

Or make them account wide unlocks.

Or add uncommon and rare variants that are obtainable by ingame means. (But do it alongside the release, not unannounced a month or a week afterward.)
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# 38
07-25-2012, 01:05 PM
Good God Man! have you guys totally lost it?, 700 Zen for an EV suit that is per character

Lockboxes make sense but this is just I hope there is a typo in there somewhere.
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# 39
07-25-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lan451 View Post
lol

Are you guys really surprised at this? Really? These are the same people that want to charge you $20 for a single character unlock fleet ship. Is $7 per character now suddenly all that shocking? Granted I don't like this either, but it's hardly surprising anymore.
A $20 per character ship has value and, frankly, makes no difference if you only play one character.

I just did a double take on the price myself.

Honestly, I don't get why anyone would buy this. The purple Tholian sets can be had by spending a couple million EC.

Furthermore, you have to wear an EV suit to display this. So the appeal is pretty limited.

Then again, the EV suits on the Latinum mining station are absurdly overpriced too.

If it came as part of a bundle, a costume unlock, was part of the Tholian lockbox reward table, etc. I could see it.

But all this suit does is get rid of our ground customization (like all EV suits do) and isn't viable for wear anywhere else. (Like the other EV suits.)

I'd pay 700 ZEN for this as an account costume unlock. I might pay 700 ZEN as a character costume unlock.

As a functional piece of hardware? Not worth it.

If you guys are looking for a ground combat monetization stream similar to your ship sales, you need to sell species respecs and additional species unlocks. Or some wild new costume unlocks (and you can bundle in a kit, shield, phaser, etc. if you want some mechanical quality item with the purchase).

Honestly... Hm. I'd pay 700 ZEN for a per character costume that was bundled with a ground item that had a +1 ship console type mechanic.

For example, Dixon Hill trenchcoat look with a Tommygun.

Romulan Infiltration costume (ie. a dropdown costume option that makes us look fully Romulan, with custom uniform colors) with a Thalaron Mine Kit.

Ferengi Businessman costume with a universal kit that summone a Nausicaan Bodyguard security escort, a latinum-plated fabrication bunker, and some kind of science powers.

People don't see ships as equipment. They see ships as their avatar. People don't see EV suits as their avatar. They see the EV suit as something hiding their avatar.

For 700+ ZEN, I want a costume that will get some use elsewhere and something mechanically novel. Or I'd want it to be account wide.
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# 40
07-25-2012, 01:06 PM
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Cryptic, you do realize that Champions Online (Cryptic's other MMO) offers account-wide costume unlocks for 475 zen. Why is Star Trek Online so much more expensive?
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Close eyes... count from one to ten.

Okay. Now I can post without raging, because that was my initial wish. Honestly, I expected this to be a C-Store item. But I hoped that by seven dollars this would be account unlock. I have 6 chars. If I want one for each, I will have to pay 42 dollars. And I will say this: By $ 20 dollars I bought on Steam Mass Effect one and two on steam last week. Now, Cryptic. Put this on costumer perspective: do you think that someone will be crazy enough to put this ludicrous amount of money into a single item? Someone could arguee that it is actually 6 itens. But they are all identical. So in this sense they are just one item. Perhaps someone really obessed with the game or really rich would do this. But I think the average players are neither of these. So basically, the average player will not buy this item, but will be always wishing it (or at least me, and I consider myself an average player). On the end it is bad for the company that doesn't profit from this. And it is bad by the costumer that get frustrated and my stop playing, what once again is bad for the company. No one wins. But the company isn't mine. It isn't me who will be losing money. So not my problem...

The same thing goes to the fleet ships. We have already paid it by helping the fleet with doff, dilithium etc. For me doesn't sound right to ask more 20 dollars for one. And I surely will not be buing something that expensive. As I said, by the same price, I buy not one, but TWO FULL games. What is really bad because Cryptic will not profit from me on this and I will be wishing it.

Hope some dev see this and give some though on it.
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You really are trying to become a generic space MMO. What'll be next? Removing Phasers and Disruptors from loot tables, crafting and shipyards, and forcing people to fit out their ship with random energy types unless they're willing to shell out 400 Zen per phaser bank just to get a little authenticity?

I honestly can't manage outrage anymore. This is getting to be par for the course. So really just more of a general feeling of disgust. There's only one way out for you now. Do the "working as intended, just gotta fix this typo" routine you've perfected in the recent past, and lose one of those zeroes.

Or make them account wide unlocks.
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