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# 21
07-26-2012, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by starfleetfc View Post
Personally, KDF needs the upgraded Future variant of the Negh'var

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...he_Pasteur.jpg

A good ship worthy to take a beating from the Galaxy-X Enterprise.
We already have that ship since the version of the Negh'var we have is the one without the pods like in AGT.
Actually the version with the pods (like we saw in DS9 and Vayager) is the one missing from the game.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 22
07-26-2012, 12:03 PM
my fed player has an armitage.I'm very pleased with it.I don't know anything about the karfi.what allien design is it? also,didn't hear the qin heavy raptor could carry fighters.
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# 23
07-26-2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fletch57 View Post
my fed player has an armitage.I'm very pleased with it.I don't know anything about the karfi.what allien design is it? also,didn't hear the qin heavy raptor could carry fighters.
Qin could always carry some fighters, tho scorpions are my fist choice they sometimes come in handy.

It'd be nice to carry a 'real' fighter tho but the Qin isn't a carrier in ANY sense of the word.
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# 24
07-26-2012, 12:15 PM
The KDF is "carrier poor" at the moment I'd say that the console is basically what your after. I would suggest digging up one of those ships that was left behind in the change and strap one to it. (Thats to Cryptic not the players) I do forget however if the PDS is even available to the KDF outside that gimmick. So it probably wont be the console you want after all
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# 25
07-26-2012, 12:18 PM
ok,nobody likes my idea.I'm cool with it. I would like to bring my B'rel and vorch'a up to tier 5 standards.but that likely will not happen.my qurph raptor and vandal destroyer are not really worth upgrading.
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# 26
07-26-2012, 12:40 PM
Well I'm not that much into the carrier business but here's a type of carrier I'd pick in an instant:

Visually use the Gorn Varanus frame as a basis and make it wider and call it a "Support Carrier".
Statwise I'd use the Kar'fi and just reverse the Tac and Eng BO and console slots.

Give it the ability to launch Gorn NPC frigates armed with a Disr DBB, a Photon Launcher and an aft Beam Array.

Voila, a ship I'd take out every day.
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# 27
07-26-2012, 03:04 PM
I'm still gonna get my Dual Tholian-Console Recluse Carrier (Normal Console, + energy web). Costs a ton though (not using lockboxes, they're a ripoff), to overall fully equip, I'll need (not farming any of my equipment, highest price) 201mil EC (100 mil for each ship? I think) and at lowest+farm equipment 185mil EC (again, I think).

PD console included since it is just baws.
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# 28
07-26-2012, 03:34 PM
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I would rather have a Raptor that did not turn worse than every other escort in the game.
It pivots like it has a stick up its aft-end and turns worse for its design than any fed escort and gains nothing for the handicap.
Exactly, it combines the worst Boff layout of any escort along with the worst turn rate of any escort, even before taking the pivot issue into account. Even the Gurumba, which has the same nominal turn rate, definitely seems to turn better and it is still lacking a bit in that department compared to the fed options. The Qin does have built in cloak unlike the fed escorts, it just gives up way more than that is worth in comparison.
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# 29
07-26-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fletch57 View Post
ok,nobody likes my idea.I'm cool with it. I would like to bring my B'rel and vorch'a up to tier 5 standards.but that likely will not happen.my qurph raptor and vandal destroyer are not really worth upgrading.
If any more carriers were to be added to the game i'd be inclined to think it would go fed side, be of a lower tier, and match the current kdf ones from the lower tiers.

As for the b'rel, that is at t5 specs, it matches the t4 hegh'ta heavy bop for most stats, while missing out on 1500 hull points, but is the fastest turning ship in the game (shuttles and such excluded) and is able to launch torpedoes from cloak as well as use most skills and consoles while cloaked. With all that taken into consideration, i feel the b'rel retro is actually more in line with t5.5 without the 10th console.

As for the Vor'cha we have that in T5 model, thanks to the fleet ships, seeing that the Tor'kaht is the upgrade to the Vor'cha, couple that with the fact, in my opinion, KDF has to many cruisers and feds don't have enough, again, this is MY personal opinion.

The Qorgh Raptor and Vandal Destroyer would most likely end up identical to the ones brought in with the fleet ships, maybe slightly better in the case of the Qorgh, and slightly worse for the Vandal.

What I myself would like to see, and would spend money on buying is a proper and true fleet bop, not the rubbish that has been delivered so far, and an actual good top level raptor that is actually equal overall to the fed escorts, not sub par to them overall.


For interests sake, and to avoid flaming, this post was done while in the game at the shipyards comparing each ship in here to the each other on KDF side, and is all my observations and opinions in regards to how each one stacks up against the others.

Sorry about the wall of text.
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# 30
08-02-2012, 07:17 AM
The only reason I can really see to give the KDF an Armitage-equivalent is so that they can have at least one carrier in all three categories, since the Vo'Quv already covers science while the rest are pretty much all cruiser-carriers (though the Kar'Fi is a bit debatable in its role). Really though, the KDF has enough carriers at the moment, I'm in agreement with the Raptor/BoP advocates here. I fly a Qin on one of my toons and, though I'm not much of an escort pilot and that toon isn't quite level 50 yet, I don't get near as much "oomph" and performance out of it as I do my Prometheus or Sao Paulo. As for the BoPs, I don't fly one personally but they just don't seem to do the trick in a stand-up fight, or even a hit-and-run fight for that matter, not when both players are equally well equipped and skilled with their ships. I'm not expecting a B'rel to win a no-holds-barred brawl with an Odyssey or Atrox, but I was able to wipe the floor with my fleet leader's B'rel while flying an Exeter, console or no console that is just not right. Back on the topic of carriers I would like to see at least one flight-deck cruiser on the Fed side, make it the a Galaxy variant and make use of that huge main shuttle bay, or even the Sovereign refit, I'd be fine with that.

So in short: Upgraded Raptors/BoPs, Fed cruiser-carrier, then maybe a KDF escort carrier.
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