Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 74
# 1 Help on Fleet Excelsior Build
06-12-2013, 07:53 PM
Hello fellow captains,

I need some help on my Fleet Excelsior Build,

Its main objective is full frontal assault on PVE and Elite STFs.

I'm a Tac Captain

I dont want advices and comments for a single cannon build!

Weapons
Fore: 1xAdvanced Fleet Dual Phaser Beam Bank Mk XII [Dmg]x3 [Acc]
2xDual Phaser Beam Bank Mk XII [Acc] [CrtH] [Borg]
1xAdvanced Fleet Quantum Torpedo Launcher Mk XII [Dmg]x3 [Acc]


Aft: 2xPhaser Turret Mk XI [Acc] [CrtH] [Borg]
1xBreen Transphasic Cluster Torpedo
1xKinetic Cutting Beam Mk XII [Dmg]x3


Deflector: Assimilated Deflector Array Mk XI
Impulse: Assimilated Subtranswarp Engines Mk XI
Warp Core:Overcharged Warp Core Mk X [EPS] [A->W]
Shield:Assimilated Regenerative Shield Array Mk XI or Adapted M.A.C.O. Covariant Shield Array Mk XII

Eng. Consoles: 3x Neutronium Alloy Mk XI
1xEPS Flow Regulator Mk X

Sci. Consoles: 1xField Generator Mk XI
1xBorg console

Tac. Consoles: 4x Phaser Relay Mk XI

Boffs Stations:

Lt.Com. Tac: Tac Team I /Torpedo Spread II/Beam Overload III
Com. Eng. :Epts I/AuxStruc I/Epts III/AuxStruc III
Lt. Eng. :Eptw I/ RSP I
Lt. Sci. :HE I/ TSS II

Doffs
Tac:
2x EWO
1x PWO
1x CO

Eng:
1x DCE


Sorry for the long post!

thx in advance
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 741
# 2
06-12-2013, 09:51 PM
Turrets are useless unless you use single cannons at the front.

I used a single cannon build on my Fleet Excelsior before... I'd give it a try. Just use a tac officer with TT1, HYT2, CRF2

Then get DEM 2 to make those cannons make boom.
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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 658
# 3
06-12-2013, 10:22 PM
Assuming that you can keep the DBBs on target, it looks pretty decent. (If not, the cannon build would help a lot, combine that with the fact that turrets and cannons use the same abilities which boosts total DPS and that's why it's popular.) You should drop the Cluster Torp for another turret though (you can't use the Cluster while using the rest of the build) and I would strongly recommend dropping A2SIF1 for a second EPtW. Get the Zero Point Energy Conduit when you can, and use it to replace either the EPS console (those don't do anything for power drain anymore, so are you actually getting anything out of it?) or one of the Neutroniums. Also think about replacing the Quantum with one of the Rep torps, they should have slightly higher DPS (although I haven't really tested that myself). Last thing: why an Overcharged [A->W] warp core? If you're running your Aux power low enough for the efficiency buff to matter (I assume you're not running it over 125, as that would be silly) you could get a bigger buff to your weapon power by picking a higher power system to buff it from. If Aux is your second highest power system, then you don't get much from using an Overcharged core, and would do better with a different type. If it's just all you can afford, go with it, but it's not ideal.

Of course, if you want to totally change it around, an AtB build is always a nice option for a cruiser, especially an Excelsior. You would have to lose A2SIF entirely, leaving you a bit short on hull heals, but you'd get RSP on a 1 minute CD and all your tac abilities cut to a 20 second CD instead of 30. Of course, you could also drop the torp ability (and possibly the torp) so you can fit an Attack Pattern, which is also nice to have. I'm less sure about how that will affect the build, however, so I didn't include it in my main set of advice.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 75
# 4
06-13-2013, 12:06 AM
I'm an engineer captain with the fleet excelsior. Here is my current build. It gives good damage and can take a beating. It works for me.

The website is being a pain and not showing everything for me, but hopefully you can see it.

http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skil...uild=ryoohki_0
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,032
# 5
06-13-2013, 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeemike View Post
Turrets are useless unless you use single cannons at the front.

I used a single cannon build on my Fleet Excelsior before... I'd give it a try. Just use a tac officer with TT1, HYT2, CRF2

Then get DEM 2 to make those cannons make boom.
yeah if you use a cannon ability...but he just uses a BO3. so it really doesn't matter and the turrets are the only option here...
it really would be great if cryptic would finally come around and implement 360 degree beams, there is really no reason for those not to be in the game.

anyway, you are right with the cannons+turret build...would probably do more dps, and the excelsior is a little to slow turning for DBB. a saucer seperated oddy has the turnrate to pull that off more efficently imho.
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# 6
06-13-2013, 05:06 AM
If you're objective is full frontal assault then you should use 3dbb up front with the quantum. This way you're guaranteed to fire the BO from a DBB and not accidentally use it from an array (happens to me sometimes).
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Posts: 179
# 7
06-13-2013, 06:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by caio492 View Post
Com. Eng. :Epts I/AuxStruc I/Epts III/AuxStruc III
Lt. Eng. :Eptw I/ RSP I
I'd switch these boffs around to look like this:

Com. Engineer: Eng Team 1/ EPtS 2/ RSP 2/ AuxToStruct 3
Lt. Engineer: EPtW 1/ EPtS 2.

The Eng Team is optional in this case since you're using a Conn Officer but I find it handy in PvE for the occasional viral matrix/system shutdown and beefy heal for sneaking between Tac Teams when I need it. With the Assimilated Shield you can rebalance shields manually and still get decent coverage. (The Covarient is probably going to be more difficult in this regard.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by caio492 View Post
Doffs
Tac:
2x EWO
1x PWO
1x CO
You can get a Very Rare PWO from Nimbus. Otherwise I would recommend ditching an EWO for another DCE since it's more important to get EPt(W/S) down closer to 30 seconds for chaining than it is to get BO down closer to 15.
(My FAW Fleet Excelsior has 2 EPtS's and honestly the second is only there for when my DCE's don't proc since when they do I can switch off on EPtW and EPtS freely when they do.)

Last edited by yargomesh; 06-13-2013 at 07:32 AM.
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,671
# 8
06-13-2013, 07:30 AM
Interesting responses.

OP: have you seen this thread? http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=738431 (Forgive me, but I'm not checking 59 posts to see if you posted there and I stopped looking at it after page 2 because I got what I needed earlier).

Good luck!
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 323
# 9
06-13-2013, 08:15 AM
I really need to launch a site for builds that are actually good

This is the standard Excelsior Build:

Fore:
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array // or Experimental Beam Array Mk XII if Plasma

Aft:
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
Kinetic Cutting Beam Mk XII [Dmg]x3

Shields: Assimilated Regenerative Shield Array // or Elite Fleet Shields w/ [ResB][Adapt]
Engines: Assimilated Transwarp Engines
Deflector: Assimilated Deflector
Core: Doesn't matter (I use [W->A])

Engineering Consoles:
Assimilated Module
Zero Point Module
Plasmonic Leech
Nukara Particle Converter

Optionally: Tachyokinetic Converter

Sci Consoles:
Fleet Emitter Array (either [Pla] or [ShH], Engineers should take [+Th] or you're doing it wrong. -Th for everyone else.

Tac Consoles:
4x +Dmg Consoles


Duty Officers:
Technician
Technician
Technician

Two of
Warp Core Engineer (+Power after EPtX)
Marion Francis Dulmur
Dlyrene


Bridge Officers:
Lt Cmdr Tac: TT1, APB1, FAW3 (or FAW2, APB2)
Cmdr Eng: EPtW1, A2B1, RSP2, DEM3
Lt. Eng: EPtA1, A2B1
Ens. Eng: EPtE1 or EPtS1
Lt. Sci: HE1, TSS2

I am terrible at this game. I have 7 Lv 50 accounts.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 546
# 10
06-13-2013, 09:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdkraust View Post
I really need to launch a site for builds that are actually good

This is the standard Excelsior Build:

Fore:
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array // or Experimental Beam Array Mk XII if Plasma

Aft:
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
___________ Beam Array
Kinetic Cutting Beam Mk XII [Dmg]x3

Shields: Assimilated Regenerative Shield Array // or Elite Fleet Shields w/ [ResB][Adapt]
Engines: Assimilated Transwarp Engines
Deflector: Assimilated Deflector
Core: Doesn't matter (I use [W->A])

Engineering Consoles:
Assimilated Module
Zero Point Module
Plasmonic Leech
Nukara Particle Converter

Optionally: Tachyokinetic Converter

Sci Consoles:
Fleet Emitter Array (either [Pla] or [ShH], Engineers should take [+Th] or you're doing it wrong. -Th for everyone else.

Tac Consoles:
4x +Dmg Consoles


Duty Officers:
Technician
Technician
Technician

Two of
Warp Core Engineer (+Power after EPtX)
Marion Francis Dulmur
Dlyrene


Bridge Officers:
Lt Cmdr Tac: TT1, APB1, FAW3 (or FAW2, APB2)
Cmdr Eng: EPtW1, A2B1, RSP2, DEM3
Lt. Eng: EPtA1, A2B1
Ens. Eng: EPtE1 or EPtS1
Lt. Sci: HE1, TSS2
IMO Aux2Batt+Tech is the best way to go with all fed cruisers.
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