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Here's an idea for doing something new with the game:

5 players take lower-tier ships and team up against one player in a tier 5 ship!

Captains would be level 50. But the idea raises a question: How low a tier should the 5 ships be? I would guess, counting the number of boff powers, that five tier 2 ships would be about one tier 5 ship. (Which gives the team 15 boff powers vs the T5's 12, albeit of lower tier, plus 5 times the captain powers, and about two and a half times the weapons.) But what is your opinion? Tier 1 ships? Shuttles? Tier 3 ships?


And who of you would like to try that, and would be available on what side of the encounter? I'd be in for either.
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# 2
07-31-2012, 07:19 AM
The Tier 5 ship should still have the upper hand. Reasons for this being:
1) Not all ships will be attacking the T5 ship because at least 1 will be blown up in seconds due to lesser boff slots and less tanking ability
2) Lesser boff slots means some of the very best abilities won't be used in exchange for more, but not as powerful abilities
3) Less firepower. True the ships will have more weapons but their net damage will be less due to aftershocks of points 1 and 2 combined with less tactical Slots. That way even a well build escort should be able to tank the incoming damage.


The idea, however seems interesting. It's all theorycrafting on the forum but in my opinion a well built T5 ships should be able to single a group of T2 and possibly T3 ships.
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# 3
07-31-2012, 07:26 AM
We've done this before.

When TS get busy and everyone gets bored of STFs, we either do a big PVP where your only allowed to have a certain tier of ship. We'd then decide which tier weapon to have and agree not to call in fleet support. It's really fun actually, it's a good excuse to pull out a Gladius or the Exeter or a Nova etc.

The idea of 5 Tier 2/3 ships against a T5 is interesting but it all depends on whats being flown. A Tier 5 escort can easily pop it's adversaries one at a time. And I cant see them all killing a tank'd up Star Cruiser.
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# 4
07-31-2012, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanev View Post
The Tier 5 ship should still have the upper hand. Reasons for this being:
1) Not all ships will be attacking the T5 ship because at least 1 will be blown up in seconds due to lesser boff slots and less tanking ability
2) Lesser boff slots means some of the very best abilities won't be used in exchange for more, but not as powerful abilities
3) Less firepower. True the ships will have more weapons but their net damage will be less due to aftershocks of points 1 and 2 combined with less tactical Slots. That way even a well build escort should be able to tank the incoming damage.


The idea, however seems interesting. It's all theorycrafting on the forum but in my opinion a well built T5 ships should be able to single a group of T2 and possibly T3 ships.
And would you prove that with your tier 5 against a team of tier 2's? ^^
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Last edited by sophlogimo; 07-31-2012 at 07:49 AM.
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# 5
07-31-2012, 07:28 AM
I'd prove that anytime yes.
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# 6
07-31-2012, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by aquitaine985 View Post
I'd prove that anytime yes.
So you would say Tier 2 is too low? How about tier 3?
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# 7
07-31-2012, 08:30 AM
Pandas used to go around in tier 3 ships beating teams of tier 5 ships, so yes, it can be done.
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# 8
07-31-2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
Here's an idea for doing something new with the game:

5 players take lower-tier ships and team up against one player in a tier 5 ship!

Captains would be level 50. But the idea raises a question: How low a tier should the 5 ships be? I would guess, counting the number of boff powers, that five tier 2 ships would be about one tier 5 ship. (Which gives the team 15 boff powers vs the T5's 12, albeit of lower tier, plus 5 times the captain powers, and about two and a half times the weapons.) But what is your opinion? Tier 1 ships? Shuttles? Tier 3 ships?


And who of you would like to try that, and would be available on what side of the encounter? I'd be in for either.
Better idea would be 3 average players vs 1 really good player all on the same tier.

Or just go on drozana and RP yourself into a 5 v 1 (did it before) and roll them 15/0.

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Captain
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# 9
07-31-2012, 12:05 PM
Tier 2 is about the point where it's too low to get anywhere (you have Lt. skills at best across the board). Lt. Com. is perfectly serviceable and opens up at Tier 3.

Also bear in mind that weapons don't "downgrade" simply because they're on a lower tier ship. You can strap DHCs to a Miranda quite happily.
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# 10
07-31-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hurleybird View Post
Pandas used to go around in tier 3 ships beating teams of tier 5 ships, so yes, it can be done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50hKr35Oljg


I think thats the only vid we got on it :p
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