Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,192
# 21
08-10-2012, 05:55 AM
I would rather see something that actually offers options instead of removes them. Making universal lt. from sci slot is bull**** as 99% people with clue will pick science BO there anyway.

Lt.cmd
Cmd.
Ens.
Lt.
Lt.

Much better. Using eng in the universal would mimic Excelsior, while using either sci or tac would create more choices for loadout.

You actually do not need so many tactical abilities for a beam-boat, and trust me, with 7 turn rate it is a beam boat.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 51
# 22
08-10-2012, 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
I would rather see something that actually offers options instead of removes them. Making universal lt. from sci slot is bull**** as 99% people with clue will pick science BO there anyway.

Lt.cmd
Cmd.
Ens.
Lt.
Lt.

Much better. Using eng in the universal would mimic Excelsior, while using either sci or tac would create more choices for loadout.

You actually do not need so many tactical abilities for a beam-boat, and trust me, with 7 turn rate it is a beam boat.
I'm of similar optimism, not looking to Fleet ships this is what I hope for/expect:
Com Eng (typical of cruisers)
LtC Tac (the only Fed cruiser to see this as pure tactical LtC. has been the Excelsior Retrofit)
Lt Uni
Lt Sci (every fed cruiser going back to Tier 2/Commander level has this slot... fleet ships might be different though)
Ens Eng (really there to make it cruisery, but I would love to see this be Uni)

Folks posting 4 BOFF layouts need to realize that so far the only ships to get that have been BoPs and Carriers (at endgme.)
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 102
# 23
08-11-2012, 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by framesplicerx View Post
I'm of similar optimism, not looking to Fleet ships this is what I hope for/expect:
Com Eng (typical of cruisers)
LtC Tac (the only Fed cruiser to see this as pure tactical LtC. has been the Excelsior Retrofit)
Lt Uni
Lt Sci (every fed cruiser going back to Tier 2/Commander level has this slot... fleet ships might be different though)
Ens Eng (really there to make it cruisery, but I would love to see this be Uni)

Folks posting 4 BOFF layouts need to realize that so far the only ships to get that have been BoPs and Carriers (at endgme.)
Actually I like this arrangement. However, if you put an ENG in the Lt Universal slot, you have exactly the same boff layout as the Excelsior retrofit but minus the better turn rate of the excelsior. Of course you can stick another TAC there but tanking will suffer.

Ideally, as I mentioned before I'd like the 2 LtCom stations:

Com ENG
LtCom ENG
LtCom TAC
Lt Sci

You lose no tanking ability but gain the LtCom TAC. This layout is different then what is current out there.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,159
# 24
08-11-2012, 02:28 PM
The regular Sovvy can actually do decent DPS if you put single cannons and turrets on it, maybe one torp up front if you want and run an RCS acelerator. It can only run 1 rapid fire or scatter volley, but the energy weapons Doff makes up for this. You still wont do as much DPS as escorts obviously, but you should rarely die in STFs so it may actually do more damage over the long term especially againsts gates and cubes that regularly kill escorts or force them to run.

Using 1 scatter volley and 1 torp spread lets me do probe duty with no problem in KASE so doesn't slow my team down at all. Also they can fly near me while I'm on probe duty for heals. Much easier to hold aggro usings cannon then beams too.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 965
# 25
08-12-2012, 04:46 PM
Quote:
Yes the Sov is on par with other T5s but unless you are flying an escort u better not step in an Elite STF or Fleet Action for that matter in a T5. Timers have killed T5 cruisers and Sci vessels. I want the Sov revamped so I can play it End Game. I love that ship!

I fly a Sovereign built to tank, I have not failed an Elite STF optional in months. Bringing it home with time to spare. The trick is not to join a random PUG but to take four other people who know how to play and won't do stupid things.
so glad to know that W0W Elitist attitudes have found a home on STO
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 51
# 26
08-13-2012, 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by studleydoo View Post
Actually I like this arrangement. However, if you put an ENG in the Lt Universal slot, you have exactly the same boff layout as the Excelsior retrofit but minus the better turn rate of the excelsior. Of course you can stick another TAC there but tanking will suffer.

Ideally, as I mentioned before I'd like the 2 LtCom stations:

Com ENG
LtCom ENG
LtCom TAC
Lt Sci

You lose no tanking ability but gain the LtCom TAC. This layout is different then what is current out there.
As I mentioned, the issue with that layout is ONLY BoPs and Carriers have been given a 4 BOFF layout so far. Granted, new ship means potentially breaking this mold- but I'm very skeptical that they will do that.

I think the Devs' greatest challenge with this ship is making it not feel like a light-Ody. It has to be feel different enough from the Ody to be worth a purchase. Something about it, besides it being closer to a movie enterprise than the Ody, has to pull in a potential customer over buying an Ody or the Ody pack.
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