Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 11
08-06-2012, 12:40 PM
Seems overly complicated to me... I'd rather see the dev's focus on gameplay, new content, etc... instead of trying to fix an issue that was caused by a deliberate decision by a person with sufficient privlidges to manage the bank tabs, the fleet leader who granted that person permission, or some combination of the two.

Its a non-issue. Dev's shouldn't give it a second thought.
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Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 12
08-06-2012, 01:16 PM
Just wondering. How big is your fleet?
Kyle
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# 13
08-06-2012, 01:17 PM
Mine? 170 characters (some have alts in as well).
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Career Officer
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# 14
08-06-2012, 01:40 PM
77 Members for mine, minus my 3 other alts
Career Officer
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# 15
08-06-2012, 01:55 PM
Let me make sure I got this right. Someone in your fleet spent [insert X time here] building up trust with your fleet members, contributed to projects, was actively involved (obviously if he was getting promoted), and clearly demonstrated he has the calibre needed to contribute to your fleet. And he did all this with the sole purpose of emptying all the items out of your fleet bank and jumping ship with all of his riches?

Okay. Well, I can think of better ways of doing that if I was a thief. The motive sounds sketchy to me, almost like you are saying he was some kind of sleeper agent who would rather gain items very slowly with trust rather than by earning more items by playing the game.

Are you sure this isn't some kind of vendetta against another member, maybe your leader for doing something? I don't really understand how this is theft.
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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 16
08-06-2012, 02:21 PM
If I were running a fleet, the only people who would have unlimited withdrawal or large amounts of withdrawal capability would be the fleet leader/founder and the 2nd in command(s). Everyone else would be tightly restricted, especially when it came to data samples. That's the only way you can ensure some safety. . .either that, or be a better judge of character.
Career Officer
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# 17
08-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Well, its not that easy... being a fleet leader also means you have to walk that line between whats good for the fleet, and still being attractive to potential recruits... and continue to be attractive to existing members.

You also have a limited number of tools/settings at your disposal.
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Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 18
08-06-2012, 02:53 PM
Don't store Mk XII purple stuff in your fleetbank. If you want to share something with someone else, let yout fleet members help eachother.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 19
08-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Rule #1 of any fleet, clan, guild, company, organization, or non-profit...

Don't give someone access to the money / resources unless you absolutely trust them (or unless you've placed strict limits on exactly what they can do).

If you haven't learned that, you deserve to be cleaned out.
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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 41
Here's an idea. If anyone knows anyone within their fleet that has webpage design experience, why not have them build a page where fleet leaders can join together and communicate back and forth about players that do this and other activities that we as fleet leaders would deem "criminal"? You could feature a red list where we list players who are notorious for behavior like this, that way other leaders of fleets don't have to risk their fleets being harmed by players like this and since it would be a site that existed outside of STO, there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.

Just something to consider
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Join Date: October 2009
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