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# 1 hands down...best escort?
08-06-2012, 07:40 PM
Opinions wanted! I know the heavy escort carrier is the latest, but I've also seen people kick butt in a tactical escort (defiant). So in all of you guys opinions, what's the best escort? (Most maneuverable, most survivable, best Boff layout, etc?)
Thanks
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# 2
08-06-2012, 08:35 PM
NX-class replica.

But honestly, there is no truly 'hands down' best of the best escort. A lot of people would say that the Jem'hader Attack Ship is truly that, and in many ways that is true.

There really is no single answer to your question, each escort is good.

The Defiant-R is a potent piece of work, amazing at alpha-strikes by de-cloaking. Armitage is a carrier-escort of course. The Jem'hader ship is...well, the Jem'hader ship (don't have one, so I dunno what to say on it). The Multi-Vector can split into three, plus having the Lt. Cmdr Sci is nice too.

Really, it's what you want, and who you play as, as to what will be the best.

Defiant-R: Gives up any advantages in sci and engineering in order to shove as much damage as possible out of it.
Patrol Escort and Armitage: The extra engineering ability means you survive a little easier, although they don't push out as much damage. The Armitage's hanger adds some versatility as well.
Advanced Escort/Multi-Vector: More sci slots means more sci abilities of course, again at the cost of as much damage, but Multi-Vector mode turns 1 into 3, which is very nice indeed.

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# 3
08-06-2012, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mimey2 View Post
NX-class replica.

But honestly, there is no truly 'hands down' best of the best escort. A lot of people would say that the Jem'hader Attack Ship is truly that, and in many ways that is true.

There really is no single answer to your question, each escort is good.

The Defiant-R is a potent piece of work, amazing at alpha-strikes by de-cloaking. Armitage is a carrier-escort of course. The Jem'hader ship is...well, the Jem'hader ship (don't have one, so I dunno what to say on it). The Multi-Vector can split into three, plus having the Lt. Cmdr Sci is nice too.

Really, it's what you want, and who you play as, as to what will be the best.

Defiant-R: Gives up any advantages in sci and engineering in order to shove as much damage as possible out of it.
Patrol Escort and Armitage: The extra engineering ability means you survive a little easier, although they don't push out as much damage. The Armitage's hanger adds some versatility as well.
Advanced Escort/Multi-Vector: More sci slots means more sci abilities of course, again at the cost of as much damage, but Multi-Vector mode turns 1 into 3, which is very nice indeed.
This. Well said.

If there were truly a single 'best escort' for everything, and there was no reason for anyone else to fly any other type of escort, then you'd see everyone all flying the same ship all the time, and the ship designers would have completely failed at ship balance.
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# 4
08-06-2012, 09:27 PM
or you can use the advanced escort with the mvam console and get just as good dmg as a tact escort (crf2 + thy 3 + apo 3 = yummysauce). I just wish the fleet version had the same boff layout instead of the ltcmdr sci.
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# 5
08-06-2012, 09:44 PM
I understand what you mean, about there not REALLY being a best escort. But for example, I mostly run STFs. Out of all the escorts, which one works best for you in STFs?
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# 6
08-06-2012, 10:13 PM
That jemhadar cruiser from lock box is best escort.
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# 7
08-06-2012, 10:16 PM
It's whatever works for you and your style of gameplay really. I have a Jem'Hadar Bug, but I enjoy my Tactical Escort Retrofit much more. Looking forward to the Fleet version for the extra Tac console.
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# 8
08-06-2012, 10:32 PM
Hands down the best Escort and most OP ship in the game is the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. There is no going around it. That is the undeniable truth.

Outside that and other cheatbox ships, as far as the Federation goes, the selection is pretty even from what I've observed opposing them in PVP.

Blockade Escorts, Defiant Retrofits, Prometheus/MVAE, they're represented pretty well in PVP and I've seen good drivers in each. The Armitage is FOTM right now and is shown frequently. There's little nuances to each, real subtle stuff outside the Armitage. That BOFF change from the Defiant and MVAE is subtle but makes a huge difference in how you play. The standard dil-costing Blockade Escort at RAdm is nothing to scoff at either.

Now, as a matter of personal opinion, I think the slight leaning to Science for the MVAE is a rather nasty combination. You give up a touch of offensive power compared to the Defiant-R, but your capabilities are nicely evened out with the enhancing or debuffing Sci abilities with the MVAE.

I'll put it like this: The Defiant-R is excellent at being a stealthy blunt-shaped instrument. Massive firepower out of the cloak like a KDF ship is it's game, in addition to great maneuverability. The MVAE though, due to the slight shift with Science, is more flexible due to drawing well from both TAC (heavily) and SCI (less) abilities.
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# 9
08-06-2012, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by djf021 View Post
Opinions wanted! I know the heavy escort carrier is the latest, but I've also seen people kick butt in a tactical escort (defiant). So in all of you guys opinions, what's the best escort? (Most maneuverable, most survivable, best Boff layout, etc?)
Thanks
I have the defiant, heavy escort carrier and the multi vector. The defiant has a commander tactical and lt commander tactical station. It cloaks, which looks cool, and it packs a punch. The escort carrier doesn't have the lt commander tactical station, but has a lt tactical station. It does have a lt commander engineering station and it has a hangar which is a great advantage. The multi vector is cool because it can separate into 3 parts and you can choose which part you want to control. You can't command the other 3 parts, and I haven't figured out an easy way to provide shield or hull repair, but its fun to use. All ships have their advantages and disadvantages. Personally I find the escort carrier more fun to use, mainly because of the hangar. The defiant has cloak, which will help you to strategically place yourself during battles, but that's about it. You can't cloak during fights. The escort carrier has the same punch as the defiant, but it has a hangar. The multi vector is cool, but when you fight multiple ships, unless you repair hull and shields, you can lose the other parts. It's really up to your preference on what advantage you like. I think all are great ships, but I enjoy using the heavy escort carrier
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# 10
08-06-2012, 11:07 PM
jemmy bug is a great ship and powerful but fleet defian will be second.
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