Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 702
# 11
08-07-2012, 12:15 PM
Good looking ship. Not sure if its better than the stock Sovereign, but good still good looking. More interested in what the special C-store console will be... that will determine if I buy this or not.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 70
# 12
08-07-2012, 12:21 PM
The Cryptic "Ugly-Stick" strikes again. I'll still buy it and do some kit-bashing, I suppose.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 948
# 13
08-07-2012, 12:22 PM
Good thing I'm getting C-Points friday. I sure as hell hope it doesn't have the same Boff Layout as the tested one on tribble did.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 348
# 14
08-07-2012, 12:26 PM
Gonna have to agree with diogene0. We have cruisers, upon cruisers, upon cruisers, and the thing is, cruisers are a very "aquired taste" for playstyle, due to the beamboat / battleship / USS Missouri type of combat and the ultra-hindered manueverability.

I'd be much more inclined to play on a regular basis if we had some more options. Awhile back, I made a suggestion for a "middle-weight combat cruiser" which would be approximately the size of an Intrepid, with a cruiser type styling (saucer, neck, primary hull, pylons & nacelles) and a tactical loadout. Basically a stepping stone between full blown escort, and whale cruiser. Not to mention it would give tactical players a different look which doesn't exist in the Escort line, since either you have to fly a fighter jet wannabe, or a 4 nacelle frankenstein.

Essentially a more survivable Tactical Alternative. More survivability than an Escort, and more powerful than a Cruiser. Less Survivable than a cruiser, less firepower than an escort. A true hybrid.

Why can't we get some hybrid type ships? Why do the ships have to be distinctly Escort, or distinctly Whale Cruiser, or distinctly Science? You guys placed STO in the 25th Century so you could have some freedom of creativity. So why aren't you exercizing that freedom?

Border Patrol Mid-Size cruiser FTW!

Oh, and Sci needs some major love too. Those guys really don't have much in the way of options.

We've got more than enough cruisers.
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Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 374
# 15
08-07-2012, 12:27 PM
yet another c/z-store ship... if cryptic will ever release some ship that is useful for free? (the default odyseey doesnt count as it just sucks)

oh and by the way.. i am already waiting for the day when this ship comes out, every bad player is getting hands on and i see STFs failing again because they are just standing there and do useful things like "firing at one generator only","defending kang",... things nobody really needs. Oh.. and of course fire at will 3 with rainbow style on ISE, destroying all the tactics

smaller ships would be better, too much big one?s BUT everybody asked for a sovereign refit and they now make one. your guys own fault.

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Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7
# 16
08-07-2012, 12:29 PM
Can we get one Klingon ship? Just one? Please?
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 422
# 17
08-07-2012, 12:29 PM
What will make or break this ship

1. Turn rate
2. Boff layout
3. Console/ ability
4. Hull strength

Cryptic like they say in temporal mechanics don't screw this up.......again
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,089
# 18
08-07-2012, 12:32 PM
First,

Not bad. Not bad. I like the stardrive dorsal, that's actually sexy. Though I must say I wish for the John Eaves Final Sovereign Model or at least the parts.

This is not to knock the design (most people take that sarcastically, but I DO like this ship). But as the type of geek that buys all the behind the scenes stuff, I remember from the Art of Generations and First Contact, that this is very similar to one of the original versions of the Sovereign that John Eaves did, with forward swept pylons. It was almost the final version until one of the producers, Rick Berman I think, looked at it from the top view and said, it looks like a chicken in a pan. And no one could take it seriously after that. The thing is....I LOVED that version too. So in my subconscious I was always hoping to see it in game. How about that?

Second,

I want an assault cruiser with the survivability of a cruiser and the firepower of an escort. I don't really need the turnrate of the escort (not that I'm opposed), leave that different (if you feel it's absolutely necessary)....but let me hit Hard. And an escort that can hang in the fire fight (remember the time the Defiant tanked Jem Hadar ships with no shields, that happened a couple of times), I mean the ship was designed to fight the Borg...which means a long haul battle. (See the Battle of Sector 001) (shutting p about canon now, carry on) would be nice as well.

Third,

All that said....what is the performance on this bad girl? What kind of consoles and stations are we working with?
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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 827
# 19
08-07-2012, 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenaphl View Post
Can we get one Klingon ship? Just one? Please?
Actually, what might be nice would be a "Klingon Season," where they add all their planned content and lots of new ships. How cool would that be?
Starfleet Veteran
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Posts: 1,018
# 20
08-07-2012, 12:43 PM
Its .. okay , not what im waiting for , so no sale here though
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