Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1 On the Sovereign Refit design:
08-08-2012, 06:00 AM
Why? Whyyyyy does Cryptic have such an obsession with forward swept nacelle pylons? Why? Seriously Cryptic, stop it. Most canon Starfleet ships either have straight up or down or out pylons or backward swept pylons, they really don't do much of the forward sweeping stuff, yet you made the akira into the armitage, you made the Imperial class assault cruiser skin, there's a star cruiser skin with forward swept pylons, there's an advanced escort skin with forward sweeping pylons, and now there's this...A refit of something shouldn't look COMPLETELY different from that thing. I.E., changing the backward sweeping nacelle pylons on the akira and sovereign into forward swept pylons on the armitage and regent respectively is a complete change of the look of the ship, it is not, as you say, keeping to the fundamentals of the sovereign.

What I would have liked to see, and this is just my opinion, is exactly what you have, with upward thrusting straight pylons, remeniscent of the Connie, but mirrored from what they are now, sweeping backwards.

TL;DR: Forward sweeping pylons, ftl!
Career Officer
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# 2
08-08-2012, 06:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by atrus19 View Post
Why? Whyyyyy does Cryptic have such an obsession with forward swept nacelle pylons? Why? Seriously Cryptic, stop it. Most canon Starfleet ships either have straight up or down or out pylons or backward swept pylons, they really don't do much of the forward sweeping stuff, yet you made the akira into the armitage, you made the Imperial class assault cruiser skin, there's a star cruiser skin with forward swept pylons, there's an advanced escort skin with forward sweeping pylons, and now there's this...A refit of something shouldn't look COMPLETELY different from that thing. I.E., changing the backward sweeping nacelle pylons on the akira and sovereign into forward swept pylons on the armitage and regent respectively is a complete change of the look of the ship, it is not, as you say, keeping to the fundamentals of the sovereign.

What I would have liked to see, and this is just my opinion, is exactly what you have, with upward thrusting straight pylons, remeniscent of the Connie, but mirrored from what they are now, sweeping backwards.

TL;DR: Forward sweeping pylons, ftl!
It's set to be customisable, so you'll be able to stick 'standard' Sovereign pylons on it if you so wish.

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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 177
# 3
08-08-2012, 06:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by atrus19 View Post
Why? Whyyyyy does Cryptic have such an obsession with forward swept nacelle pylons? Why? Seriously Cryptic, stop it. Most canon Starfleet ships either have straight up or down or out pylons or backward swept pylons, they really don't do much of the forward sweeping stuff, yet you made the akira into the armitage, you made the Imperial class assault cruiser skin, there's a star cruiser skin with forward swept pylons, there's an advanced escort skin with forward sweeping pylons, and now there's this...A refit of something shouldn't look COMPLETELY different from that thing. I.E., changing the backward sweeping nacelle pylons on the akira and sovereign into forward swept pylons on the armitage and regent respectively is a complete change of the look of the ship, it is not, as you say, keeping to the fundamentals of the sovereign.

What I would have liked to see, and this is just my opinion, is exactly what you have, with upward thrusting straight pylons, remeniscent of the Connie, but mirrored from what they are now, sweeping backwards.

TL;DR: Forward sweeping pylons, ftl!
Stop nitpicking. Don't like it, don't use the design. You can still get the same ship with the sovereign skin. I'm personally going to use the imperial skin, I love the way it looks.
Captain
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# 4
08-08-2012, 06:32 AM
Maybe in the 25th Century the Starfleet Engineering Corp has learned that forward-sweeping pylons are more dilithium efficient.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 18
# 5
08-08-2012, 11:46 PM
Don't know about you guys, but i personally like the '2409' versions of normal ships. I find the basic Color pallet and artstyle of the Oddy, the Exeter C-Store ship, the Thunderchild + Armitage, even the Bellenephron and Venture all kinda look the same. If they'd all update them to be Viable at T5 i'd buy them in a heartbeat.

The Sovvy and Connie 2409 skins are best, IMHO.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 131
# 6
08-08-2012, 11:49 PM
With exception to the Voyager stylings and Sov(doesn't mean I dislike the next gen one) I always found the "canon" ships to be painfully plain and dull to look at. One of the reasons I liked DS9 was so many of them got destroyed in the last seasons.
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# 7
08-09-2012, 02:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by atrus19 View Post
Why? Whyyyyy does Cryptic have such an obsession with forward swept nacelle pylons? Why? Seriously Cryptic, stop it.
It makes them go faster, didnt you know?

I have to admit I really like the new designs and you can no doubt switch skins on the new ship just as you can with the Armitage, etc.
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Career Officer
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# 8
08-09-2012, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nyxadrill View Post
It makes them go faster, didnt you know?
Now all we need to do is add more red stripes to make the ship go fastererer.

Anyway sometimes they're swept forward (even if only slightly like on the Galaxy and the Intrepid) sometimes they're not...sometimes someone likes a style and sometimes not.
That's what's so great about the customization thing:
If you don't like a part just use another that suits you more.
I think it's interesting to see a Sovy with Prometheus-style pylons even though I actually don't fly an Assault cruiser.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 266
# 9
08-09-2012, 10:34 AM
Just to be sure. the Sovereign refit will be another independent Tier 5 ship and not just a skin for the already aailable sovereign? It is time for a free vadm. ship for F2P or the ability to use tier 5 consoles on lower tier ships. the saucer seperation on a tier 4 Galaxy for example. it doesnt make it tier 5 inweapons and hull but makes it more authentic. THese consoles should be purchasable seperately.I play 4 cahrs in f2p two of them klingon where whe have no good VADM ship (Bortasqu is too slow for me) but as fed player your chances to win PVP against a VADM with an upgraded ship decrease.Alsp make the ships cheaper. 2500 Zen thats 25? for a virtual ship is a bit much15 for normal tier 5 and 20 for each odyssey is enough. You have done it before by giving us a free odyssey in the Pack
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 7
# 10
08-09-2012, 11:24 AM
Rear swept! woohoo!
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