Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 114
# 11
08-11-2012, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Tough cookies


you don't like it ??
don't leave the fight early

Indeed.

The op screws over a whole PUG and then comes here and complains that he took a penalty for it... FFS...

Nothing worse then people that bail rather then trying.
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 702
# 12
08-11-2012, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fogerty1 View Post
Not happy with new patch that if you leave an STF early your temporarily banned from ALL team type issions like PVP and PVE's for 30 mins.

I remember how we had the penalty for the borg missions, but this new penalty for fleet actions is WRONG.

Why? Because we are all fleets trying to build our starbases. Sometimes, not everyone you know who can handle these missions properly with you is online, so you must PUG it.

Upon entering earlier, I attempted the No-Win scenario (Which is a VA50 Mission) and upon rez had a Captain with ZERO accolade points sitting next to me. Knowing full well he is a one hit wonder who will immediately explode cryning HELP and HILFE, leaving the rest of the team to have to carry him and spend costly consumables, as always, I left before it even started.

Wham, hit with penalty.

As a paying customer since the beta days, I am REALLY angered by this.

Everyone keeps saying it is all based on Rank, well these noobs make VA in a matter of a week not even doing Storyline missions which give them the skills and 2% gains from damage and kill accolades. As I proposed in an earlier post, that I won't even attempt it anymore (After seeing so many fail miserably GARUNTEED) based on them being noobsters, if they have less than 6,000 accoldae points. They have the skills, the 2% accolades to handle more than one hit, and most likely the gear.

Of course VA's can drop it too, but the point is, they should not allow players with absolutely no experience in the game to wreck it for 4 other people who are working hard and spending alot of EC on consumables to complete these missions.

So at this point, I have definitely devised a new strategy (ancient chinese secret) and will NOT carry noobs through these missions. Secondly, I am NOW seriously considering to downgrade to Free as that appears to be all Craptic seems to cater to and is crapping on us veterans, who have EARNED their ranks and have the skills to be a team asset not a serious liability.

I remember when as a noob I couldn't even venture into certain sectors until achieving certain levels of accolades or skills and ranks, but it sure appears that these "i'm too lazy to work for it" types, can do more than I can.

Thanks alot.

P.S. I do expect the onslaught of trolls and noobs to blast me for this, about how they should have everything catered to them, so save your breath on that.
Not sure if troll. Or really that entitled...

I hate people like you... who leave at the first "sign" or difficulty. There was no reason to leave... and yet you did... and then you got smacked with a penalty for poor sportsmanship. LIVE WITH IT! {Personally, I think anyone who willingly abandons a team for any reason should never be allowed to re-enter the PVE queues...)

I will stay in an STF even if its all gone south... I stayed in a botched run of KASE where it was just me and 2 other cruisers against Donatra... took about an hour... but the others were glad I had stayed and were happy to get their items.

Accolades mean nothing, especially the +2% damage ones... 2% damage on most weapons is not much... (To put it in perspective if your weapons do 1,200 damage, and then you get +2% damage... you'll be doing 24 more damage...)

And I played this game in the beta... you were never restricted from going anywhere... ever. I went to DS9 in a Miranda-class on my first day (except maybe Gamma Orionis... but I dont know if that was there, its been a while.)

Most of the PVE missions are doable with 4 people... and some are even serviceable with 3. Be a team player and stick around, or live with the consequences.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 33
# 13
08-11-2012, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
these penaltys should stack

first in a month 1 hour
second in a month 1 day
third in a month 1 week
fourth in a month permanent

and this is LEAVE (as in beam out or warp out )
if you lose connection you should be returned to the instance when you log in
(and sit out the timer as normal if you are slow getting back)
I agree with this, these should stack and I even believe they should be account wide, not just on a character. Although I'd change the fourth penalty lol perma ban would empty out the ques

Now if they would only give us a way to deal with afkers...

BTW can someone enlighten me, does this happen if someone leaves a pvp map as well? Or is it just in fleet actions?
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,446
# 14
08-11-2012, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by anikaiful View Post
You're likely the happy farmer who sits in a failing instance for half hour then? Good for you.
You get the irony that the OP is talking about a no-win scenario? If it's not failing there's something wrong and he left before it started.
I stay in an instance until everybody who is still there has decided to leave to or is unresponsive. If the team was incredibly stupid I have a good story to tell at DS9. I once had a group where sometimes 4 people were protecting the Kang and it still took damage (and it was not the elite-version). I tried to assault the shipyards by myself. Leaving is not an option.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
these penaltys should stack

first in a month 1 hour
second in a month 1 day
third in a month 1 week
fourth in a month permanent

and this is LEAVE (as in beam out or warp out )
if you lose connection you should be returned to the instance when you log in
(and sit out the timer as normal if you are slow getting back)
I guess the problem with that would be that the game has no way to make a difference between someone actually having a disconnect and someone who switches to the desktop to turn off his connection.
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Captain
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Posts: 2,192
# 15
08-11-2012, 03:30 AM
The OP leaving a no-win scenario that takes like 5 mins with a noob team to finish is pretty disgusting. I hope you will be locked out of queues for eternity.
Empire Veteran
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Posts: 190
# 16
08-11-2012, 03:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
you don't like it ??
don't leave the fight early
Hardly believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Sollvax.


If you had tried in an STF, and you somehow weren't able to complete it (maybe only 2 teammates left) and thus, had to leave... and got a penalty, that truly would suck.

But, leaving just because you didn't want to fly with lowbies with "ZERO accolade points"...

I mean, I finished a blockade that had a lvl 30-something in a Peregrine fighter. (c'mon, Devs... allowing people to queue in shuttles/fighters in the public queue? Really??)
An outright troll, blatantly trying to sabotage the team.
While we only got 16 freighters (a sad run), hey... I got marks.
That's what I came for.

If you don't want to run with them and quit, you get a penalty for leaving the team short handed. Seems fair.

Sorry, friend, but the only suggestion I can offer is to only run with pre-mades. Fleets. Friends.
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Career Officer
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Posts: 594
# 17
08-11-2012, 04:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bladeofkahless View Post
While we only got 16 freighters (a sad run)
How is that a sad run? That's been the average I've seen, with 19 being the most I've personally seen in a run.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 787
# 18
08-11-2012, 04:56 AM
Dear OP, you sound like a coward...leaving before the game even starts. You deserve a penalty and I'm glad that one was given to you. You shouldn't just be able to leave your team high and dry without repercussions.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 537
# 19
08-11-2012, 05:23 AM
The OP leaving was childish and wrong.

However it was also wrong of the low level guy to get dragged into the fleet event, leeching of the other player's time and efforts. I don't think accolade points should be the measure, but people below Lv 45 have no business in those events.
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Posts: 92
# 20
08-11-2012, 05:26 AM
I have played a few missions where people will leave early and I'm the only one left. I think it's necessary to have penalties because people will probably leave more frequently. Even though I have been penalized for being the last one and having no choice, but to abort the mission, I don't disagree with the penalties. I would rather have penalties, than not being able to complete the mission because my whole team left.
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