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# 41
08-12-2012, 03:06 PM
Duplicate post. Mods should probably merge with the other one started by the same OP.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=350201
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# 42
08-13-2012, 07:45 AM
The very idea that you can somehow pug an elite STF, says a lot.

Elite STF's are not something you should try puging, they're the next step up, they're supposed to require a good team working together to pull it off. Something you'll rarely ever get in a pug.
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# 43
08-13-2012, 07:47 AM
Radical suggestion

REMOVE the public queue for Elites entirely
And let people only play in premade teams

THEN open up normal to captains (who are more than capable of doing them) to get some practice
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# 44
08-13-2012, 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cptvanor View Post
The very idea that you can somehow pug an elite STF, says a lot.

Elite STF's are not something you should try puging, they're the next step up, they're supposed to require a good team working together to pull it off. Something you'll rarely ever get in a pug.
But it does happen. Heck I've seen some damn good pug runs through space elites.

The ground though, that's a different matter..
I have to admit, I sold out
"Disenchanted"
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# 45
08-13-2012, 08:10 AM
I pug a lot

but I only Enter an ELITE with a team I know personally (who all speak the same language for a start)

I do Pug normals however
And thats fine
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Commander
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# 46
08-13-2012, 08:19 AM
Almost all of my MK XII gear is done from pugging elites (5 ships in total 100% geared with MK XII weapons, shields, etc). It's not overly difficult to do. I still think if they made the STFs a single player run through mission (Complete with tutorials on "Oh you have a ship injury, here's how you fix that" or an NPC player ship says "Follow these directions so you don't screw things up") that must be completed on Normal and Elite prior to being queued for public would really assist in showing people how these things are actually done.

[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent

Unrepentant is not a fleet or a group of friends, it's a way of life.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 47
08-13-2012, 08:25 AM
Give me a solo option on STF (ground in particular) and I will NEVER Pug Again
Id much rather take my highly trained and supremely well Equiped Away team into action than work with a bunch of VA level guys who I don't know and who don't carry the weapons We prefer.
And who in many cases i have to ISSUE large hypos to
I mean who doesn't carry Hypos??
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Commander
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# 48
08-13-2012, 08:45 AM
My idea is for instruction only, no real loot would be provided. You must still do elite groups in order to get the STF gear.

[Unrepentant] Lapo@overlapo: the problem with space STF
is that you can't properly teabag your defeated opponent

Unrepentant is not a fleet or a group of friends, it's a way of life.
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# 49
08-13-2012, 08:50 AM
which forces most people (who unlike me do not have 4 friends on at the same time with VA/LG level characters and a good grasp of the same language) to pug
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# 50
08-13-2012, 08:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ariseabove View Post
Well then DON'T PUG ELITES!, theres no point complaining about it or claiming that its broken because its not. Playing with randoms with virtually no communication or plan is just asking for problems for missions that require team cooperation.

There a stepping stone, if you like doing elites go join a fleet that does them often or for the few times you have been successful invite those people to be your friend then you can create your own team and not have to worry about randoms.



You do that with an elite with me or any of my friends you would instantly go on an ignore list, there are certain strats for doing elites and taking out a cube to early will cause the kang defenders to be overwhelmed and the mission will fail.

I think it is you that needs to do some learning before you go complaining about other people!



As above join a fleet or make some friends lol.



lol You do that with an elite with me or any of my friends you would instantly go on an ignore list, there are certain strats for doing elites and taking out a cube to early will cause the kang defenders to be overwhelmed and the mission will fail.

I think it is you that needs to do some learning before you go complaining about other people! lol

if u are doing is propely u dont need people to defend kang they should never make it to kang in the first place.

maybe u shouldnt bash so much when u dont exactly have the best stragy either
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