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# 51
09-18-2012, 04:53 PM
i hope cryptic is keeping track of all the kdf fleet ships are being bought, historically the kdf ships have sold terribly according to them, but about 90% of the kdf ships that were made were NOT end game. the other 9% you could get free with a veteran token, leaving basically the gurumba as the only true have to pay money for kdf end game ship, for quite a wile. now that there are those end game ships available, kdf ships are making them money im sure, theres fleet ktingas, vorchas, somraws, and scourges all over the place now.
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# 52
09-18-2012, 07:02 PM
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i hope cryptic is keeping track of all the kdf fleet ships are being bought, historically the kdf ships have sold terribly according to them, but about 90% of the kdf ships that were made were NOT end game. the other 9% you could get free with a veteran token, leaving basically the gurumba as the only true have to pay money for kdf end game ship, for quite a wile. now that there are those end game ships available, kdf ships are making them money im sure, theres fleet ktingas, vorchas, somraws, and scourges all over the place now.
Yeah, I might end up getting both the Somraw and the Fleet Hoh'sus. . .we'll have to see. It's just hard to justify the cost, even for good ships.
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# 53
09-18-2012, 07:14 PM
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Yeah, I might end up getting both the Somraw and the Fleet Hoh'sus. . .we'll have to see. It's just hard to justify the cost, even for good ships.
in the case of the somraw, even the free one is an upgrade to a qin flyer. the fleet version even trumps the RA federation escorts! thats a first. oh but then there are fleet versions of the federation RA escorts...
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# 54
09-18-2012, 07:43 PM
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in the case of the somraw, even the free one is an upgrade to a qin flyer. the fleet version even trumps the RA federation escorts! thats a first. oh but then there are fleet versions of the federation RA escorts...
Yep. Like that friggin Defiant. . .that damn thing is OP, but you won't hear the Feddies whining about that. It's only when KDF ships are 'OP' that they whine.
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# 55
09-19-2012, 05:36 AM
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Yep. Like that friggin Defiant. . .that damn thing is OP, but you won't hear the Feddies whining about that. It's only when KDF ships are 'OP' that they whine.
That 5th tac slot certainly makes a difference on an already powerful ship design.
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# 56
09-19-2012, 06:29 AM
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why did they give the somraw in the t2 shipyard a .65 shield modifier? .
Because you're grinding the fleet starbase for no reason?


The ships are nice looking, but thats about it. A poor man's Lockbox ship if you are aiming for a better bridge officer layout than the Q'in raptor.

Oh wait, The jemmy with 4 Tactical stations is probably still best! :O

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# 57
09-19-2012, 08:03 AM
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Because you're grinding the fleet starbase for no reason?


The ships are nice looking, but thats about it. A poor man's Lockbox ship if you are aiming for a better bridge officer layout than the Q'in raptor.

Oh wait, The jemmy with 4 Tactical stations is probably still best! :O

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TT1-BO1-BO2
TargetSubShield1-Delta1
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Technically the Fleet Aquarius can go 4 tac stations as well, plus till have a LT:engi station to cycle twin EPTx powers.
With its highturn rate its now the Fleet cheap Bug ship for some.
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# 58
09-19-2012, 10:18 AM
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I broke down and bought the FL Somraw and find it to be a fun vessel. Much better (sadly) than the standard Qin in all respects, including turn point.

I had great fun with it in Ker'rat plinkering with the odd fed but I failed it in the Arenas against TSI and Sad Panda (Hi MTs tricky) team of escorts, Intrepid and Atroxs.

SO its worth the money in my opinion but only if you really really want to spend $20 on a chance of pace in vessels and support the KDF.
Otherwise I would say leave it and most Fleet vessels alone until they up the showroom floor packages.
Thanks for the review, been holding off on the Fl. Somraw until they revamp the price structure, so I don't feel so bad still flying my Pach at VA on my TAC toon, and even the Qin on my ENGie has been taking bigger beatings as of late. They up the difficulty levels recently ?

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# 59
09-19-2012, 01:17 PM
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Thanks for the review, been holding off on the Fl. Somraw until they revamp the price structure, so I don't feel so bad still flying my Pach at VA on my TAC toon, and even the Qin on my ENGie has been taking bigger beatings as of late. They up the difficulty levels recently ?

Fleet purchases so far=0
c-store purchases so far=0
6000+ zen and 165000 FC waiting for something to buy....
Well the FL Somraw is basically everything the base Qin should have been in the begining.

I have also heard good things of the Fleet Scourge as well.
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# 60
09-19-2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
i hope cryptic is keeping track of all the kdf fleet ships are being bought, historically the kdf ships have sold terribly according to them, but about 90% of the kdf ships that were made were NOT end game. the other 9% you could get free with a veteran token, leaving basically the gurumba as the only true have to pay money for kdf end game ship, for quite a wile. now that there are those end game ships available, kdf ships are making them money im sure, theres fleet ktingas, vorchas, somraws, and scourges all over the place now.
I sure am getting the Fleet Tor'kaht and either the Fleet Scourge or the Fleet Somraw (for now, Somraw's winning) on my Tac. The only question is when. (Ok, maybe there's also the question: Will they release anything better before I get those?)
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