Rihannsu
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# 11
08-16-2012, 10:03 PM
im amazed by how hung up people are on the +1, for referance Devs call them that thus i used their own term. Weither it is or isnt is a seperate discussion from the topic i proposed.

And no i dont want an OP ship, like it even matters at this point since seems the devs threw balance out the window head first.

Tac focused negvar is all im looking for, and seems people want it. What its console and weapon should be is part of the discussion. Since the sov skin is called the Regant, the neg'var skin of the regant ship from DS9 could be called the Sov. Kinda like a mirror universe aspect.
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# 12
08-17-2012, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jtoney3448 View Post
im amazed by how hung up people are on the +1, for referance Devs call them that thus i used their own term. Weither it is or isnt is a seperate discussion from the topic i proposed.

And no i dont want an OP ship, like it even matters at this point since seems the devs threw balance out the window head first.

Tac focused negvar is all im looking for, and seems people want it. What its console and weapon should be is part of the discussion. Since the sov skin is called the Regant, the neg'var skin of the regant ship from DS9 could be called the Sov. Kinda like a mirror universe aspect.
They are "hung up" because you used the wrong term for the ship.
The term +1 (plus one) was applied to ships like the Rhode Island, Venture etc.
Those are +1 ships because the have +1 console slot and/or +1 BO slot (either additional or larger) compared to their non C-Store counterparts.

That's why they are +1, not because they are just different but have in total number the same BO and console slots like the Regent has compared to the regular Sovereign.
The error is you using the wrong term for the wrong thing.
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# 13
08-17-2012, 05:55 AM
A +1 Negh'var would make sense.

but... i'd already be happy with a 180? Torp launcher for the KDF, just for balance reasons.
Could be a Photon launcher instead of quantum for all i care...
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# 14
08-17-2012, 06:01 AM
The Regent is not actually a +1 ship. It's basically a retrofit, similar to the defiant, Galaxy-R and Intrepid. The Excelsior is practically the same ship... without the Metreon Gas and Torp, of course.

Wouldn't mind seeing a Negh'var Retrofit though, would be awesome!
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# 15
08-17-2012, 07:32 AM
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LOL there are a fleet version of negh'var, k't'inga, and vor'cha, what we need is a kar'fi or guramba refit
True, but those 3 fleet ships are still basically healers, a tac heavy cruiser is what the OP is asking for, it doesn't exist in the KDF arsenal.
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# 16
08-17-2012, 08:45 AM
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True, but those 3 fleet ships are still basically healers, a tac heavy cruiser is what the OP is asking for, it doesn't exist in the KDF arsenal.
Ya. it doesn't exist due to the Battle cruisers equiping cannons. It's been a demand for a ltCom Tac slot on a BC since the Excelsior was released, but since Geko considers that Op, unlikely to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I want one too!
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# 17
08-17-2012, 09:07 AM
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Ya. it doesn't exist due to the Battle cruisers equiping cannons. It's been a demand for a ltCom Tac slot on a BC since the Excelsior was released, but since Geko considers that Op, unlikely to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I want one too!
Ahhh, I get it now. The Fleet K'Tinga is looking better every minute.
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# 18
08-17-2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by targpetz101 View Post
Ya. it doesn't exist due to the Battle cruisers equiping cannons. It's been a demand for a ltCom Tac slot on a BC since the Excelsior was released, but since Geko considers that Op, unlikely to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I want one too!
Which doesnt make any sense, i have a d'kora. I run all DHC and turrets on it with scatter volley 2 and rapid fire. The dkora also gets a massive load of good bonus from its battle mode, + it now is on par with fleet ships in terms of health and shields.

With the +energy dmg its like having an extra energy console, +projectile dmg is like having a torpedo console, +turn rate is like having a RCS console. And it already has 10 console slots, and 2 other abilities.

In what way do the devs think having LTC tac would be op just cause you can equip DHC lol. A "refit/retrofit/+1" neg'var whatever one wants to call it wouldnt have any of that stuff.

/Sigh

I swear the devs have no concept of logic.

"Ambassador is to similar to the galaxy so we dont want to confuse the players, btw there will be a T4 galaxy, a T5 galaxy, A T4 Galaxy Venture, and a Fleet galaxy class!"

/Facepalm
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# 19
08-17-2012, 09:21 AM
Old joke but, here you go!
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# 20
08-17-2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jtoney3448 View Post
Which doesnt make any sense, i have a d'kora. I run all DHC and turrets on it with scatter volley 2 and rapid fire. The dkora also gets a massive load of good bonus from its battle mode, + it now is on par with fleet ships in terms of health and shields.

With the +energy dmg its like having an extra energy console, +projectile dmg is like having a torpedo console, +turn rate is like having a RCS console. And it already has 10 console slots, and 2 other abilities.

In what way do the devs think having LTC tac would be op just cause you can equip DHC lol. A "refit/retrofit/+1" neg'var whatever one wants to call it wouldnt have any of that stuff.

/Sigh

I swear the devs have no concept of logic.

"Ambassador is to similar to the galaxy so we dont want to confuse the players, btw there will be a T4 galaxy, a T5 galaxy, A T4 Galaxy Venture, and a Fleet galaxy class!"

/Facepalm
its only OP if the feds dont get one too
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