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# 1 KDF Fleet Ships
08-20-2012, 08:46 PM
One thing I'd like for the Dev's to do well maybe a few things when it comes to these fleet ships...

#1. It is stated in the game that siphon pods are nausicaan tech, the federation content missions show that they are launched from the fleet nausicaan ship design, so why do we not have this as a flight deck carrier? Possibly this could be our armitage?

#2. We have ships like the fleet negh var and vo'quv at the high levels but their abilities are no more different than the ones you can get virtually for free and not 20 bucks a pop PER CHARACTER. An ensign universal for the negh var, and one console and a pinch of extra shield/hull health for the vo'quv is a slap in the face TBH.

#3. No gorn ships there are plenty in the game either federation content and with the Fleet Events but we only get varanus for a Tier 5... So basically if I like themeing my ships my gorn is limited to the varanus I guess which doesn't cut it... I'd like some gorn battle cruisers and escorts.

#4. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this Fleet Ship Module discount although they said they picked out so many ships for the starbases shipyard but yet the few retrofits we do have there were none put on the KDF side on top of that we got fewer ship selection out of it, as well its one ship per character, and you put in a ticket wanting some results on this and they are getting better it only took 2 weeks to tell me they were looking into it...

Man I swear logic and common sense is not so common... You'd think in relation to fed vs kdf sales you would understand that if you own 2 car dealerships and you got shiney brand new cars on the fed lot and you put an old gremlin with one tire in the KDF lot and the KDF isn't selling gee whiz I wonder why?
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# 2
08-21-2012, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zeuxidemus001 View Post
One thing I'd like for the Dev's to do well maybe a few things when it comes to these fleet ships...

#1. It is stated in the game that siphon pods are nausicaan tech, the federation content missions show that they are launched from the fleet nausicaan ship design, so why do we not have this as a flight deck carrier? Possibly this could be our armitage?

#2. We have ships like the fleet negh var and vo'quv at the high levels but their abilities are no more different than the ones you can get virtually for free and not 20 bucks a pop PER CHARACTER. An ensign universal for the negh var, and one console and a pinch of extra shield/hull health for the vo'quv is a slap in the face TBH.

#3. No gorn ships there are plenty in the game either federation content and with the Fleet Events but we only get varanus for a Tier 5... So basically if I like themeing my ships my gorn is limited to the varanus I guess which doesn't cut it... I'd like some gorn battle cruisers and escorts.

#4. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this Fleet Ship Module discount although they said they picked out so many ships for the starbases shipyard but yet the few retrofits we do have there were none put on the KDF side on top of that we got fewer ship selection out of it, as well its one ship per character, and you put in a ticket wanting some results on this and they are getting better it only took 2 weeks to tell me they were looking into it...

Man I swear logic and common sense is not so common... You'd think in relation to fed vs kdf sales you would understand that if you own 2 car dealerships and you got shiney brand new cars on the fed lot and you put an old gremlin with one tire in the KDF lot and the KDF isn't selling gee whiz I wonder why?

+1

Also Federation escort carrier is OP yes it is lt commander tac and lt commander enginner is OP

7 weapons+ tractor boats is op yes it is

I have been a good customers and always buying c store kdf ships despite if the federation ships outstat kdf ships

I believe its time to add a new kdf escort carrier just like the federation one

KDF ppl are here also and some of us are rly good customers and we are not happy with the ships u create u make all the OP ships into federation and in KDF you dont give any new ships at all

Yes we want an OP escort carrier just like the federation one
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# 3
08-21-2012, 05:40 AM
The Kar'fi, Guramba, and I would think all the Orion and Gorn vessels where left our suppossedly becuase thier built in abilities hampered them being pasted over.
I can understand that on the Garumba, since it has the lance and siege mode, but the other vessels are just FDCs and Carriers.

I agree it would behoove the Devs to give the KDF that extra touch of uniqueness by bringing some of the Gorn and Orion vessels over to fleet status or by designing a new KDF fleet vessel of the Line, though I am personally not ready to see another Carrier hybrid ingame.
Maybe a Raptor/ Battle Cruiser Hybrid or a class of vessels that have a more forward mounted weapon design. Something to differentiate our design philosophy from the federation enough to be called KDF.
Heck, these new vessels could be the Gorn and Orion equivalents and allow the Devs to really have fun in thier designs.
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# 4
08-21-2012, 06:08 PM
I just want a 5 tac console ship.
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# 5
08-21-2012, 06:36 PM
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I just want a 5 tac console ship.
A 5 tac console B'rel would be to die (honorably) for. You don't even have to add more hull and shield than the c-store B'rel, or change anything else . . . just have the 5 tac consoles on that bad boy. Good BoP pilots can take it from there

Of course, we're just now getting 4 console BoPs, so it'll be a while before they get to 5 tac consoles, if ever. Oh well. . .one can dream
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# 6
08-22-2012, 12:49 AM
I know one thing that I'd get even if the cost was really high would be atleast LC tactical negh'var with a battle cloak

They said and I will quote the carrier's are unique to the KDF which they are not so a good penance for going back on their word would be a refit like the soverign except a negh'var with a battle cloak Even if it was a cross between bortasqu' and negh'var like the Regent (which was a Klingon in mirror universe no doubt) would be same thing as ody is a sovy and ody mixed together.

I do agree to an extent about the carrier hybrids but we kinda need something for nausicaans to use that tech for the siphon pods on a nausicaan ship just doesn't make sense that there is no ship nausicaan designed that cannot use their own tech... Just my opinion on that though.

The ferasan thing should be simple you give the same room that was given with the Caitian Carrier give us a straight up escort or bird of prey model for their ship and the console is simple they have telepathic abilities so give them that telepathic weapon as a console for a strong confuse ability.

I think a gorn ship whatever it could be we need something sciencey in their nature but something like the ability to launch mines from the front since they are more of a mine using design. Possibly a random dispersal pattern 3 console for their mines.

The last thing is the letheans besides that doff helping out tactical letheans for the most part they don't have any ships only way you can theme a lethean really is a mercenary in a lockbox ship as a mercenary ship thats about as far as we can throw them. My idea would be to take that ship Picard and Riker were mercenaries on and just for the sake of arguement that it may have been a lethean designed(or otherwised speculated as a Miradorn designed ship) ship they sold or that captain stole from them... Atleast something for them to use as mercenaries heh.

Although besides my ideas on some ships we *SHOULD* be seeing I find it a bit insulting when I really love playing the KDF since most of what I have on the KDF was bought with real money and paid for that money is not considered valuable from a companies stand point just because I do not stand with the majority of the playerbase. Like one dev said they had to create content for everybody can't remember the dev's name probally one of the ones that left... The irony. Where there is one person stating such a problem there are many other that fall into the same category as myself. So pretty much what those of us of the KDF are forced to do is not pay anything anymore since we do not get anything and just use that dilithium and stipends to buy federation stuff that we might play once in awhile if we have invested in the KDF... That is pretty much what I believe they are trying to tell us

Last edited by zeuxidemus001; 08-22-2012 at 12:52 AM.
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# 7
08-22-2012, 06:36 AM
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A 5 tac console B'rel would be to die (honorably) for. You don't even have to add more hull and shield than the c-store B'rel, or change anything else . . . just have the 5 tac consoles on that bad boy. Good BoP pilots can take it from there

Of course, we're just now getting 4 console BoPs, so it'll be a while before they get to 5 tac consoles, if ever. Oh well. . .one can dream
Well actually I meant a 5 tac console raptor. A bop is something hard to fly, and I'm not a good tac player enough to use that. But I don't understand why the feds got one and why the KDF can just sit and watch the 5 tac console ship on the other side.
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# 8
08-22-2012, 10:38 AM
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Well actually I meant a 5 tac console raptor. A bop is something hard to fly, and I'm not a good tac player enough to use that. But I don't understand why the feds got one and why the KDF can just sit and watch the 5 tac console ship on the other side.
I won't be using raptors until they fix the turn point pivot issue. It simply can't keep up with fed escorts in most circumstances. If they fix that, I'd consider raptors something worth flying and improving upon, because they could actually take on fed escorts without being turned into mincemeat. Until then, I'm making do with BoPs. True, they are rather squishy. . .which is why you need to be able to run, and run fast. Have multiple tractor/movement debuff breakers, evasive maneuvers, etc. Prioritize speed and escaping over tanking. For actual 'tanking', I carry two Tac Team 1's, an RSP, and an EPtS 1. It's pretty thin, but it usually works as long as the enemy doesn't manage to grab you with a tractor beam, warp plasma, or chronitons. The key is being able to bug out when things get hairy.
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# 9
08-22-2012, 11:36 AM
I would not be upset over 5tac console Raptor. Or even a 4/3/3 set up.
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# 10
08-22-2012, 11:39 AM
vote for fleet karfi +1 eng console + some more hull points and i am happy.
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